Ross-RCD Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Wasn't sure how to title my topic. So hopefully I can explain. I design a lot of screened porches and I typically use "post to beam" railings then add a roof. Occasionally, I need to add a regular deck beyond the screened porch area. I do this by just adding standard deck rails. It all starts out just fine, but then without warning and for no apparent reason, the post(s) and rails that should be connected are now separated. Meaning, the screened porch post that extends to a beam above should have the normal deck railing attached to it on the outside of the post. So 36" tall deck rail attached to 96" all post and beam. Just like you would build it. But for some reason, they get disconnected and usually the tall post gets moved a few inches in. I turned off the post on the deck rail at that location and when they separate, I have to use the wall intersection editor. This lasts a while, but I find that when I close the file and open it again, they separate. I've tried locking the wall layers, but that doesn't solve the problem. A little background. I have been working with Acad Lt 2D for years and dabbled with Chief for some time, but have been doing a lot more these days since clients really like to see 3D models. No formal training in Chief, just find answers here when I can't figure something out. Hopefully the files illustrate what I'm talking about better than I am. Deck corner.pdf Deck corner broken plan.pdf Deck corner broken.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyperTrex Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Unfortunately I can't tell what's causing your issue based just on the pictures. A copy of the would be really helpful to dig into this further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLayDesign Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 hours ago, Ross-RCD said: Wasn't sure how to title my topic. So hopefully I can explain. I design a lot of screened porches and I typically use "post to beam" railings then add a roof. Occasionally, I need to add a regular deck beyond the screened porch area. I do this by just adding standard deck rails. It all starts out just fine, but then without warning and for no apparent reason, the post(s) and rails that should be connected are now separated. Meaning, the screened porch post that extends to a beam above should have the normal deck railing attached to it on the outside of the post. So 36" tall deck rail attached to 96" all post and beam. Just like you would build it. But for some reason, they get disconnected and usually the tall post gets moved a few inches in. I turned off the post on the deck rail at that location and when they separate, I have to use the wall intersection editor. This lasts a while, but I find that when I close the file and open it again, they separate. I've tried locking the wall layers, but that doesn't solve the problem. A little background. I have been working with Acad Lt 2D for years and dabbled with Chief for some time, but have been doing a lot more these days since clients really like to see 3D models. No formal training in Chief, just find answers here when I can't figure something out. Hopefully the files illustrate what I'm talking about better than I am. Deck corner.pdf Deck corner broken plan.pdf 8.17 kB · 10 downloads Deck corner broken.pdf 413.75 kB · 6 downloads Do you have your railing 'wall type' set up as a 'partition' (little check box in the lower right corner - new addition to x14)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-RCD Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Sorry if I didn't upload this file correctly. It's a simple plan illustrating what I'm trying to do. Existing deck 2.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-RCD Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Let me try again. Sorry. New to posting here. Hopefully this helps. Existing deck 2.plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJames Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Hi Ross, I tried editing the intersections and had success with the right side, however the left side doesn't seem to be working for some reason. One alternative solution is to take the interior vertical railings and duplicate the wall type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-RCD Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 It takes a particular sequence in the wall editor to get it to line up. Once it's correct, it's fine until I make a change to the walls, or save and close. When I open it again, it reverts back to being broken. Did you close it and open it again? I'll see what changing duplicating the wall type does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross-RCD Posted January 16, 2023 Author Share Posted January 16, 2023 Oh Wow! I think that worked. I first tried changing using the duplicated wall type on all three porch walls, but that didn't work. However, just using the new wall type on the inner walls did the trick! Interesting. Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJames Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 You're very welcome. Glad it worked out 2 hours ago, Ross-RCD said: Oh Wow! I think that worked. I first tried changing using the duplicated wall type on all three porch walls, but that didn't work. However, just using the new wall type on the inner walls did the trick! Interesting. Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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