DianeP

Saw I mistakely added the .jpg instead of the .plan file.  Thanks in advance for your assistance!

1850- basement plan for Thomas Homes 1864-3.plan

Can anyone help me figure out why my bird box isn't forming and the roof  plane looks like it is dropping down about 1" past the eve?  I work in X5 full version Chief Architect.

I will have to look into that.  Thanks for the insight!

Is there some way to create a navigation pane on the file selection dialog box? I have attached pictures of what I would like to see.  It would make opening my various clients drawing much quicker.

Solved called NVIDIA and the nice man helped me get everything set back to where it needed to be.  Don't know why I didn't think to do that 2 days ago.

Does anyone work with a NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 video card?  If so, can you tell me what you have your 3D settings on. I tried to change mine to run x7 and didn't take a screen shot of the original settings.  x7 didn't work and somehow I changed the global settings when I added X7 to the program list  in the NVIDIA control panel and changed its 3d settings.  I deleted the CA x7 and tried to remember the settings that were on the global.   My system is totally lagging down when I do 3D views now in 5X, which was working just fine before I added CA x7 to the Nvidia control panel.   It is taking 98% of my CPU to run the 3D view. 

The attached .pdf shows my current settings.

Thanks for any assistance you can give me.

global settings.pdf

X7 works fine on Windows 7. Usually, most decent laptops have onboard graphics as the usual card, as well as the good (in your case) Nvidia card. However, to get the Nvidia card to work, you have to go into the Nvidia control panel and explicitly tell it that you want Chief X7 to run on the Nvidia card. It's possible that you are running on the low quality onboard graphics system.

For real!!!  I want to do this.  How do I do tell it to run Chief X7?  I have the Nvidia control panel open.  I have two categories to select from, 3D Settings and Display.

Diane,

 

Mick's post #20 and #23 are the only ways 5 planes will achieve that Porch/Garage "mandate" ... No amount of fudging will change that.. PLEASE let us know how it ends up...

 

Rashid_Garuba  I went with his post 30 version with plans on post 32.  The other hip to gable porch and garage roof planes I didn't put into the  "mandate"  because I knew how to create them.  Thanks for helping me get this done! 

Ahh I see you actually have X7 , I thought X5 ...why can't you run it?  . it runs even on my Surface 3 and it only has Intel HD Graphics , so sounds like you need to update drivers at Intel ( not Windows Update or your Computer Makers website)

or buy a cheap Nvidia Videocard.

 

here is the plan (_MH2 ) incase you can use it after all.... (_MH3 was just another Plan)

You had it right.  I am working in x5 but have the subscription for all since then.  I work from a Sony VAIO all in one computer. I love its compactness, but the video card is integrated with no way to install a different one.  It is a update video card driver NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400.   I will try to update the driver on the video card as you suggest to see if that helps.  I think I tried to do this before and the video card driver is no longer supported.  Either way I have plans to upgrade and have a better backup system in the near future.  That way I will be able to keep up with the new upgrades that CA has to offer.  Problem is that I need to have windows 7 to run the older version of AutoCAD which I still need to use for other CAD work.  It works fine for my needs and I don't want to spend the thousands to upgrade to the latest version.  Cool that you found a tablet that works.  Are you on the Surface 3 or Surface Pro 3?  Is this your only system?  I need a usb for my external hard drive backup (which also is backed up on Carbonite online)

It would be easier if I wasn't drawing from Napkins and had ALL the information   

 

the Gable at the back was just a click of a button...... back to Hip

 

the roof returns need to be extended the same amount as the overhang to get that look  ( assuming I got it right) of the gable sitting above the skirt roof.

 

And the front roof plane  (above front door) needs the same baseline/pitch as the skirt roof , to meddle them together

 

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Yes it absolutely would have been easier to have everything provided at the very beginning.  I apologize for the parts that I messed up.  I had company and tring to work with their distractions didn't provide for a very cohesive presentation of what I was after on this project.  The contractor providing his elevation pictures late didn't help.   Thanks for hanging in there with me.

 

Anyways, with your help and those other forum members that worked so diligently to assist me, I was able to convince the contractor that the three walls couldn't have the same fascia height.  We went with the look you came to which is one of the  scenarios I had tried thru the many iterations I did on this stupid roof.    It is the one that has the left roof plan at 8' join the rear plane at 9'..... so if you look from the rear the right side has a small shed slope.  Such is the way of the production builder who gives you a plan today and wants it finished 3 days ago.  Thanks again for all your help.  I am so glad that I wasn't missing something that made this not work properly.  CA rocks!!!

Okay this is what I am going to do.   Until I can get information from the truss company that explains how they have the left, rear and right roof planes fascias all at one level  when the garage is at 8' and the rear and right of the house are at 9'???   I will get the truss layouts from the truss company and share them and perhaps we can revisit this dilemma in the future.   In the meantime, I will just fudge the elevations in CA and take it to AutoCAD as a last resort.  Thanks everyone for trying to help me get this right.  

I am not that best with chief but we use multiple plate heights in Florida all the time  The back of the plan is how I treat different plate heights I I have used sloping of the roof like some one posted but I personal never liked but builders do it all the time like that. I did not know how to do front with extra ridge kine without jogging the porch

 

Adamporch sep roof .planthird ridge line.plan

pazzfam  Sounds like you might have what I need to learn.  Unfortunately, I am in x5 at the moment.  Although I can open x7 I can't see any camera views (just plan view) because of my system not meeting the requirements.   Could you please give me more guidance on what you did and I will try to recreate in x5? Could you attach pictures of the various elevations?

Done the Way mentioned above ..... with Gable and no trusses

 

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1512_MH2.plan

Looking at the thumbnail, this looks promising but it needs to be hipped in the rear and it needs to have the porch connected across the house.  I tried to open it but I am in CA x5.  I downloaded and installed my SSA upgrade to X7 but I don't have the system requirements to see the camera views only the plan view.  I will try to duplicate in X5.  Thanks for you help!

Think I did something wrong.  Here is the sketch.

Mick, I am so sorry.    I just got in too big a hurry to respond that I messed it up.  I attached the picture for a similar home that has a small front porch.  Here is the whole sketch they sent.  Use the one for the 1512.

Sorry guys, I had some running I had to do.  I had my client sketch out how they wanted the front elevation to look and it is as I mentioned the garage is to be 1' lower than the  porch area.  You were thinking correctly Sherry.  I attached the sketch.  

I must be missing something , perhaps a fresh look tomorrow if you post the plan file but you have 4 roof planes over the main house and 2 over the garage bumpout , which one are you going to eliminate to make it 5?

I am thinking the same thing.   This is making my brain hurt.  

The plane count is as follows:  (they can be seen better in the roof overview .jpg)

1 goes from garage left to left rear corner of home

2 goes across the rear

3 goes across the right side of the home

4 goes across the porch to a valley at the right side of the garage

5 Is the little roof plane that is on the right side of the garage that comes up and joins a small portion of the left side plane making the gable.

I think Sherry is right , Your model can't be right if there is supposed to be 5 roof planes , there would have to be a gable at the back or something to eliminate one of the planes you have there now....   or you miscounted and meant 6

 

Your Plan must have been open in CA when you zipped it , as the zip file is empty.   you don't need to zip it if the plan is smaller than 25mb nowadays btw..  

 

If you scanned and PDF'd those instructions they would be easier for people to see/read too.

 

 

And the Join Roof Planes Tool wont fix that corner for you ?

 

 

M.

I did  have the plan open.  thanks for letting me know. I will try to attach it again here.  pdfs too.

The roof planes are joined but the one for the left side of the roof hangs out too far and the ridge is off center of the left rear corner.  It needs to meet in the corner.  I think the secret with the trusse company is they will use heels on some of the shorter walls,  I just don't know how to do this.

1512.plan

roof instructions.pdf

I would just create 2D views and have the left side of the house all at the 8' level and the rear at 9' level.  As I said, it would be fudged but it works as far as what the finished roof should resemble.  The truss company is able to make the roof look right with 5 planes when the house is built.  I wish I knew their secret.  

I have a builder that uses 8' ceilings in the garage and 9' on the front porch.  He will use 8' walls with  heels bring it to 9' on some of the exterior walls.  These are shown in his instructions which I attached.  The completed roof should have only 5 planes. The roof overview and rear view pictures show a problem I am having with left rear corner of the house when I manually manipulate the planes that are auto built.  Not the look they are going for at all.  They want the garage front to be 1 foot lower than the front  porch.  I usually will just take this into AutoCAD and fudge it and let the truss company deal with it,  but now that CA is becoming my #1 software, I would really like to learn how to do this correctly in Chief Architect, if I can.  

I have attached my plan and some of the screen shots in an effort to be helpful.  Can anyone give me some guidance on how to accomplish this in Chief?  A video would be wonderful if one is available.  

As always, thanks for your kind assistance.

Diane

1512.zip

Is there a video available on how to use the roof design information that you have described and using setting the heel heights etc.?

It's to scale yay!  Thanks everyone for be there to help me!

I think you were able to help me.  I didn't know the printer dialog also had a place to select 1 to 1.  It was set to 95%.  I have tried that and sent it to the client to print.  Crossing my fingers!!!

I have images of my set up I want to share.  Trying to find how to load to here.  

I have the .plan at 1/4" = 1'-0"  and the .layout at 1 to 1 but the print isn't coming out to scale.  When I take a 1/4" scale ruler and measure a dimension that is 12'-0" it is 11'-4" by the scale ruller.  Any ideas on how to  fix?