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Thanks guys. Chop saw, I figured as much.It will require a twist and some serious cutting, even then I doubt it would have really worked well. I wanted to double check before I told them and faced the "what do you mean I can't do it this way" look,. It's nice to know every once in a while that I am not totally off. Thanks!!!

Hey guys, I got the the attached graph paper file from a client who wants his roof to look this way. The roofing is to be corrugated metal. I know this can be physically accomplished in the real world because the metal can be cut. However, I have been very unsuccessful in getting this to work in chief. I need to know if anyone has been able to complete a look like this and if so, how did you do it. Thank you in advance for your thoughts and input. J

I am in the Knoxville area. I sent you a PM.

Thank you both, I can see now that I am not insane, just going a little crazy. Yes the guy is nitpicking...even the structural engineer I'm working with is getting annoyed at this guy. I am hoping this graphic will be to his satisfaction. Although I am not sure he will. Thanks again, you've been quite helpful..

Ok, people now is your opportunity to help me determine whether I am crazy or just insane. I have always been under the impression that a stair stringer and stair carriage were the sasme things. I have seen details labeled both ways. Now, I have a client who keeps send me the plans back for frivolous nitpicking changes. The past two times he keeps saying he wants a carriage detail of the stairs. I have tried to be nice and tried to offer different details, but today I got the plans sent back again with just this one little items: ":Please show carriage detail". Pardon my my language but...Damn, I even looked online to see if I am totally off my rockers and don't understand what a nasty stair carriage is, but every blasted one I see uses the same terminology interchangeable. So, someone please tell me if there is a secrete stair carriage detail out there floating around that I have totally missed or what. Thanks.

Well unfortunately my computer is an "all in one". It was a gift a few years back since my previous computer (9+ years old) was...well...old and I Needed something new. Anyway, I have downloaded the X9 update 3 times and tried to install it and i get the same error message: program update does not contain a valid windows installer package". So...here is the kicker, it then turned around an took my entire chief Architect program OFF my computer!. I don't have the program to even work with and Iit won't download X9 at all...I have sent message to tech support, but will have to wait 2-3 hours in the morning to even see if I have a response from them since they are at least 2 hours behind me in the time zone arena. I might as well just retire...this is just crazy. We'll see what tech support has to say. In the meantime...zzzzz......

Well, jokes on me in every way....Had my IT guy go through my computer and was I ever in for a surprise. Dell has everything and my graphics card under proprietary "locK'.. and the graphics card cannot be upgraded! It is hard embedded in to the main drive etc. and NOT and NVidia! (My workstation was a gift-long story) I am sick, this means I have to get a new computer I hate that. I have already ordered my new set up, but in hopes the "Chief X9 Program Update" I was notified of would fix things, I downloaded the update. Now the download file will not work, it says it is corrupted or missing a portion of the update. I am so frustrated...I have a project due early next week and all I seem to be doing is floundering!. Is anyone else having these issues? Has anyone else downloaded the recent Program Update? If so, has the graphics update portion worked in any way??? I am curious to know. Thanks.

Well, I never changed any of my settings so I have no idea what happened. As for specs,. I do know I run win 8.1, 64 bit, 1 terabite hardrive, NVidia graphic card, 16 gig of ram. I am going to do some diagnostics...see if something got changed during the catalog downloads. Thanks for the comments.

I need some help and/or suggestions. My graphics card and computer have been fine for the longest time and was working fine the other day. I upgraded to X9 and still everything was good, but then a couple of days ago I was downloading catalogs and got a strange graphic card error. I said ok, and kept going. Then yesterday I tried to do a camera shot and now none of my rendering or camera shots work at all. They show up black. The floor plan color is fine and the color in all my other programs and desktop etc., work just fine. I have made sure my settings in Chief are right but... Have anyone else experienced this? If so, what did you do to fix it? Thanks for your help.

Mr. Galler, Sorry to disappoint, but you need to contact the original poster, TexasMProsPlus. I am not the one needing the work completed. I was just discussing the method of how it could be done.

Thus the reason for specific and detailed contracts. Not impossible, but tedious. The best way is to have the person photograph a distant view of each side being measured by some people and then a close up of the tape showing the measurement. Each photographed measurement must be agreed upon by all parties prior to actually putting pen to paper or mouse movement. As I said, tedious work for sure for the person doing the measuring but it can work.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Since it wouldn't export to excel, I simple printed it via pdf...

Every time I export my materials list to "excel" etc. It opens up blank. I have printed numerous lists for different plans before and have never had this happen. I have already checked the knowledge base, the properties in the file itself and other advance or not so advanced options and still cannot figure out what is wrong. Anyone have an idea? Thanks.

Oh I dont know about that,but thank you.

Michael, I made the changes and everything works . I knew it had to be something simple. Now to make some real progress instead of pounding my head against a wall.(Kiss on cheek & hugs to everyone). THANKS!!

Scott, I am not offended at all.Like I said it HAD to be something SIMPLE and I told you it was rough. I've used chief for 14± years. I do know how to define walls etc. I never dimension between finished surfaces, that is why this freaked me out. I did all the right things to try and correct the problem, but the more I tried to correct it the worse things got. I guess between resetting so many different defaults and doing so many trials and error late at night..I basically screwed it up myself. Its a wonder it manages to stand at all. hahaha The house has knob & tube electric its so old. Some of the walls with exterior siding showing on the inside, still do, that is how the how is now, because other rooms have been added on without changing the siding etc. It has been a challenge to say the least. But I will get it right. Thank you very much for your critique. I'll see what I can do with the plan between now and tomorrow morning. On another note, It takes more than a critical eye to get me riled. When a person has to stand still, with a straight face when the president of a company calls you a stupid b*#&! and worse... you learn to get a thick skin. Sorry, I am not a fan of football...I'll watch basketball or baseball any day.

Alan, Oh I have...to a point. I haven't given up...or started pulling my hair out either...not to mention I am asking for help.haha, I am going to try and upload my plan to my drop box for those who might be interested. It is in its rough stages...it decided to delete my rim joist between the first and second floor after lunch. I am beginning to think the plan is possessed. Anyway, I am positive it is something easy...something I missed in my late night fatigue. So, if anyone looks at it and wants to see if they can find a solution, more power to you. I am going to dinner. I will check back later or in the morning. Thanks and good luck. Walker 0-Modified.zip

FYI, I scrapped the entire 2nd flr(after making backup) and started over...same thing. I don't know for sure, but do you all think the stud size will make difference?This project is a complete remodel inside and out. The house was built in 1911 and used true 2" x 4" studs which are throughout the 1st floor. the second floor which which will be ripped up will use mainly nominal 3½" studs. Will the stud size make a difference in where the dimension locates on the surface? The upper wall was made as a "new wall" in order to use the same siding even though the studs are different. Any thoughts?

Sherry, tried that many times, doesn't work. Joe, tried that numerous times this morning. Before and after resetting my defaults etc. Alan, walls were automatically aligned when floor was built using "build new flr command" I'll try again, but may wind up using Richards idea. I've done that before...it'd be a lot of lines... I'll give it another try and see if something works. THANKS to everyone for all their suggestions.

Ok guys, I need some help. I have a two story plan I am working on. The first floor dimensions are correct and locate themselves accurately as I intend them to. The second story dimensions are another story. I have several critical dimensions that are accurate and are locating as intended. However, all my other dimensions are acting psycho ... not locating themselves where they I need to be which is the framing layer. I was up til 11pm working on the plan, I have gone through the knowledge base on the CA website, I have gone through every default set up, every preference setup, even reset everything to default to no avail. The second floor dimensions are not cooperating. So my question is: A. Has anyone else encountered this and if so what did you do to solve the problem? B. Does any one have any suggestions that may not be listed in my comments above? Quick response needed and all comments are appreciated Thank you.

Ok, I must be having a blonde moment...I have searched and have not come across an "awning" tool? I looked through all my tool bars...its been a long day. Maybe I am missing something.

Did you ever get your awning to work? I am trying to get an awning on an outdoor area that my client wants to have multiple louvered awning put over the window opening etc, I am curious if you were successful or not, as I may need to create one myself.

Well, I at first I did not mess with my dimension settings when it happened. It was only AFTER l noticed that things were not working that I began to try different combinations. Thank you for your suggestion. I appreciate it.

I need some assistance ASAP! I have been working on a plan for a couple of weeks now and out of the blue...last night my dimensions just went haywire. What I mean by that is that I am unable to dimension the center of any opening whether it be a door or window etc. I have spent an hour looking here for some suggestions as well as the knowledge bank on the chief site and no luck. So if any of you gentlemen have an idea or a suggestion I am all ears. Thanks.