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Ok, looks like I have some more learning to do. Just so I am clear, the methods you are suggesting @rgardner and @glennw are working with multi-floor and the reference display?

I did try the center modes alone and I could not get the center tool to focus correctly without me modifying what was accessible in the reference display, meaning I could not get the center tool to focus on what was actually in the floor below. That is what caused me to look further. Still not right?

I put together this test plan to find out the best way to center an object, or more specifically a room on a second floor over a point on a floor below. Sometimes that point may be in the center, others over a place on the floor below. I did some extensive research on this forum, google, and the reference guide, and I am looking to see if I am missing anything. What I found so far us by using the reference display and the control of it, I can use reference markers/points and construction lines on the floor below, which and allowed them to display to the floor above via the reference display control. All of it works fine which the exception of the construction lines that appear to be mutable on any layer, so they can be moved if you are not careful, yes, you can lock them, put them on a layer, whatever. But I also found if I allow walls-normal to show through the reference set, you can center on the room without the markers, so that is nice because you do not need the markers in that use case. But I consider the reference markers/points to be the most versatile and effective as they serve well to place points of interest anywhere that can be used to center objects on from the floors above. Plan it attached.ReferenceLayerLocationAnchors.plan Am I missing any better techniques? Thanks in advance. ReferenceLayerLocationAnchors.plan

Wow, two things solved at once! The window and the walls, and the magic attic walls. Thank you very much for the effort Eric. I had the same results as you did following your video. The little gaps are easily concealed by a small amount of cheating and will not affect the elevations. As a side note, I centered the clerestory. When I did that the roof planes matched up nicely but I still had to tweak them manually as you showed. I find these in practice/observation to be centered, probably for the same reasons. I have never built one yet, should be fun.

Hi All, I am trying to build a "coastal" raised center on a normal roof, I am not exactly what the technical name of this style is, but for lack of a better word, and enclosed widow peak that is open below. Looking for best way to do this... so far I have tried: 1) Second story with open below 2) Single story with a room created by room divider wall types, with a raised ceiling. Both of these work with a flat ceiling in the main room, but if I want it to join on a vaulted ceiling in the main room, that is where I can not get it all to match up. I was under the impression that it is bad form to manually move walls in rooms as it can cause CA issues downstream. I imagine I can do custom roof planes as well. But best to ask here first for the best advice! Thanks in advance. TraversRoof.plan

I keep trying to get an account and the creation fails with no explanation other than "sorry, try again later". Will this be available on other mediums?

Figured as much, thanks everyone. I have learned over time how much power is contained in this forum, which is why I always double-check my thoughts with yall.

@GeneDavis Later sets of plan files, or layer sets?

X13: I have a plan that is a full blueprint of an existing home for multiple renovations. As a result there are many dimensions. The work will be performed in phases requiring separate plan viewpoints focusing on the work included in any one permit. What I want to do is turn off all dimensions in a plan except those that are focused on the permit work. An example is moving one structural wall in a 2-story house. I just need 2-3 dimensions to show the wall movement as the floor plan is not significant as compared to the engineering detail. But I want to retain all the dimensions for the rest of the plan. What is the fastest way to achieve this? I looked at the various layer sets and layer set control of dimension types. What would be great is to turn off all dimensions, add my manual, point2point, end2end, etc., but they all appear to be associated with the core dimensions layer versus granularity of these types. The reference guide is not giving me any real ideas. Am I missing some control here? Or, is the answer just to put a few dimensions on their own layer (assuming that can be done). TIA = Thanks in Advance!

Wow..... lucky me! Thank 'yall so much, stopped me from thinking I was nuts (ok... well as best I can...)!

Thanks @MarkMc, as I was driving this AM, I thought about that file association bit. Nice to have that validation. One last question, the last 5 files at the bottom, on the same day, there is an XXX_auto_save.plan/layout, XXX_auto_save_bak.plan/layout, and finally an XXXAutoBackup.plan I looked in the reference. Apparently the auto_save is for normal operation, the "bak" file is for abnormal termination, which is clearly what happened a few hours later. But I can not find any reference to the _AutoBackup in the reference manual. Any idea where this file came from?

I have an unusual one for me. I have X12 and X13 on same box. I do most work in x13. I have PLAN that I was up late last night working in X13. I hit the "Win-L" key to lock the screen when done. To my recollection I did not close out X13, nor did I do a manual save. Maybe windows flaked out, and auto-rebooted on an upgrade. Bottom line, for some reason I lost some very detailed tedious work (ugh). My autosave is set for every 10 minutes. I went into manage autoarchive management, and I see a few saved the plan and layout file about the right time. They are under the X13 archieve, all looks good. But when I click on one, it jumps into X12, and asks if I want to do a CA upgrade, any ideas? The CA setup looks legit. I have negated the invitation to upgrade to date as to not honk everything up :-). The screen shot follows, I am interested in the ~2AM times at the end. What is the "BAK" files versus the not "BAK" files on the same day (all this AM)?

In my area I am only seeing Revit in large public sector government stuff, used to document existing buildings, etc., taking advantage of all the collaboration and project management stuff. The feds are the only ones that will pay for that type of detail and precision around configuration management. In the commercial private sector world (i.e. offices, retail space, etc.), I mainly see Autocad. In the small public sector stuff, I see some revit here and there, but mostly autocad. If I pursue thing.. and if I get the job, I will stick to the basics. Use CA for all the concepts, but when it get locked down, each MEP will get to do their own thing and supply a sealed PDF. Thanks for the inputs all.

Never a silver bullet, and the configuration mgmt on these big projects can be a full time job. No surprises, thanks for the input. Here in Merritt Island, would love the chance to connect. East of Orlando on the coast.

I have a big commercial job potential, i am wary due to all the details in the various requirements for MEP. Has anyone been doing this in CA? What I am seeing in the field is each MEP is engineered, and supplied separately (assuming in Autocad). Looking for any advice.

When edit from library, it looks like it opens a temporary CAD block, which looks to be a "scratch plan". That works.

How robust is the out of the box experience with this overall? My truss company would love to see this as well.

@SNestorideas for the next session?

So put a macro in the actual cad detail, I have done such on a working view. But, I referenced a standing "thing", like ceiling height. I will have to look on how to manage this.

So when you edit the block, and it says "this or all instances", that apparently is only to that plan then. Since a lot of this stuff is looked at by PEs, I have to keep the change management tight. So it sounds like the right process to manage this (probably up to100 details over time) might look like this: Do the initial work in the warehouse plan (you have to do the work somewhere). Commit the work to the library Destroy the initial work in the library as it is no longer really needed (as long as you backup your library) Do all future cad block edits from the library itself. When you edit from the library, where will the actual work be done, if you have no plan open, will it open the original plan file? Or is it a scratch plan, etc.? Thinking about plan templates in this regard.

I have been using a warehouse plan for construction details. When I complete a diagram, I block it, send it to the user library. But it appears that updates via "edit cad block" in the warehouse plan are not being pushed to the user library automagically. I see you can edit the block in the user library as well. I have looked in the help but I do not see any guidance on the best process to use over time. I have just reexported a block, and that works, but it creates "version clutter" in the library. I was hoping to see the "live update" go between the plan and the library. Am I missing something here?

In doing some construction detail work, I have come across the need to reuse text between detail diagrams that are using different annotation sets for scaling on the layouts. For example, I might have a block that says: 4" 3000 PSI fiber mesh reinforced concrete with continuous pour perimeter In one diagram, it may be needed in 1/2", in another 1". This is an occasional use case that is driven by reusing typical detail to create job specific detail. I am checking to see if there is a slick way to do this that "auto-adjusts" to the annotation set in play? So far I have been going in manually and changing it. I had considered putting multiple entries of this in the library but I only want one copy of the text to keep maintenance down.

I realize from other posts the easiest way to do this is just draw the isometric, fair enough. My questions is about what is in our libraries that I may have missed. I see if I search "plumbing" I come up with two plumbing symbol legends, a typical plumbing wall detail, and notes. I also see the various line styles. That is a good start. What I am after is if I am missing anything else that would give me more symbols in one place. For examples, symbols/text like "W.C" or "TLT", for toilets, "Lav", or "Shr", or sink/shower traps pre-draws, etc. I have been getting by with my manual methods but I have learned to ask this forum for better ways as I got a larger project coming.

I found those, it was a symbiology thing via the client. Their first page of every plan has about a 200 symbol legend, all from the CAD teams. I learned that all this stuff is not as standard as I expected either. But thank you!

These are great on the cores. Not sure why the search did not pop these up, most likely my search string. It mattered not, in this particular case I had to conform to some abbreviations/symbols outside of our library that were set by the client. In the sprinklers, I did not have the MEP#4 library installed, thanks for making me aware of this. I had a feeling I was missing it. It is too common to not be there.