MN_JohnH

12 hours ago, tundra_dweller said:

You just have to adjust your floor heights accordingly, and you'll probably get a message about a negative ceiling height in the foundation that you can ignore. Also changing to 3 bottom plates in you ext wall main layer, and adding your 4" insulation to the foundation floor structure. And there'll be some CAD work for the cross section but nothing too major.

 

Here's a sample plan with how I was able to do it.

MNJohn.zip 654.34 kB · 17 downloads

Thanks Sir, this is awesome. I am studying it to figure out exactly what you did but this is great, I really didn't think it could be done.

I am wondering how I would set up my main floor to be like this picture, ICF foundation walls with slab floor sitting partially on top of the ICF but inside the main floor wall framing. The double treated sill plate is total 3" thick so the bottom of the 4" slab goes 1" below the top of the ICF wall.
Can this be set up or do I just have do do it with a CAD detail?

1 hour ago, robdyck said:

1. 2nd Floor: Reset ceiling elevations to the default height. Assign Room types and uncheck flat ceilings.
2. 2nd Floor: Select the wall beside the stairs and uncheck 'Attic Wall'. Set Structure>Ceiling Platform to Balloon through...
3. 2nd Floor: Select the wall at the top of the stairs and set Structure>Ceiling Platform to Balloon through...
4. 

Thank you! I guess I should have remember the "balloon through" from our last conversation.
I still have a little corner up there to cover but I can take care of that easy enough.
 

18 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Attic walls can be frustrating. For example, the wall beside the stairs on Floor 1 will generate an attic wall that is definitely not what you want. Of course that raises the question about why the stairs are partially but not completely enclosed by walls. Perhaps railing on the right of the stairs would make more sense. Is this what you had in mind?

I wanted that partial wall to go all the way up as it will be behind a fireplace.
But I suppose I could just build it as a polyline solid.
It just seems sometimes like as advanced as this program is we still have to say things like "attic walls can be frustrating" and have to find workarounds for certain things.
I expect someone will eventually chime in here with a solution and it will all be so simple, but it seems like there are several points in every project where I waste a tremendous amount of time on some little things like this.
Anyway, thanks. I will probably just use solids which is the answer to so many of these issues.

5 minutes ago, JiAngelo said:

Second camera includes attic walls. circled in red.

Ok Makes sense, I didn't see that. But still, why is that wall sticking out like that?
I have tried everything including redrawing the whole thing.

I have this weird attic wall sticking out into space. I have tried redrain everything and it it still there.
Funny thing is, it only shows up on a full camera or perspective full overview.
 When I go to perspective floor overview camera it is not there.

Wall problem 2.plan

19 minutes ago, robdyck said:

Also, set the ceiling elevation in the hallway back to the default height. Because it doesn't have a flat ceiling, there's no need to alter the ceiling height.

Split that gable wall at the lower roof peak and change the wall type for the portion at the top of your screen to be an interior wall type.

Then, set the gable wall to balloon through the ceiling above.

Thanks for all that. I didn't notice that little part of the roof sticking in there. But it seemed to be the ceiling height that really solved the issue. Dang, I don't think I would have figured that out.

What is wrong with this gable wall? 
I just want it to carry all the way across and be interior below the roof and exterior above the roof and I get this.

Wall problem.plan

On 8/5/2024 at 7:05 AM, MPDesign said:

Well it took a while to find the problem.

The model took 5+ minutes to render on my tower also. With only 360,000 surfaces once it generated the view.

I started with looking for big symbols from imported objects. Then deleted all furniture, cabinets, fixtures, material regions. etc.

I think I found the culprit, the layers in the picture have cad blocks and hidden pdf files in the plan. I marquee select the items on each floor and deleted.

Once I deleted these items the 3d camera works as it should. It also reduced the plan file size by 30meg.

 

Thanks,
I got rid of all the pdfs but I don't want to start deleting all my symbols and things.
In the past I could just turn off the layers that the symbols are on and then they wouldn't take time to be rendered every time I do something in camera view.
So it generates a camera view in maybe half the time now which is still way to long. Even with all the layers that the complex symbols are on turned off.
I wish now I would have saved a copy in x15, I could just use that for this drawing, it has become pretty much unusable for me now.
Anyway, thanks for the help. I will watch it with the PDF files in the future.

I uploaded the entire plan files here. I don't know if I did this right...
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vlNLXzGaN_jE4YLLMf7Yuop0ySral756?usp=sharing

I have a house plan that I drew over the last year or so, mostly on x15. Recently I upgraded to x16 of course and the same house plan is incredibly slow in generating elevations and camera view.
It is not all that elaborate of a plan, (though to be to upload here), and it worked fine in x15. I just upgraded my machine earlier this year before the x16 upgrade and I made sure I was getting the best possible laptop so I wouldn't need to get a new one again for a few years hopefully.
I went through and tried turning off layers that had high surface count objects etc and even started deleting them.
Just clicking on an object in a camera or elevation view and deleting would send me into a five minute wait.
Generating a full overview or an elevation from a plan takes a full 7 minutes.
I don't think I have noticed it so much in other plans, this is definitely one of my bigger plans but it is certainly not anything near as large as some of what I see others designing.
I know without seeing the plan, you can't see if anything is amiss but i wondered if I am missing something simple here in transitioning from 15 to 16?
 

5 minutes ago, Garybills said:

Select line 2 fir framing, you actually have the OSB marked framing.

Well for crying out loud. 
I feel stupid now. But I had to ask I just wasn't seeing it.

Thanks,

30 minutes ago, Garybills said:

@MN_JohnHcheck in the room specification, structure tab, floor structure. Its set for I-Joist. 

 

I don't understand that. When I open the file and opened that structure i have Lumber in that box. I have been through that many times. I opened it just now and it is still set to lumber but the cross section shows I-joists.

Even when I open the plan from the file here that I uploaded, it still shows I have Lumber in that box, not I-joist.

I can't figure this out, why the floor joists in the entry foyer on this cabin are I-joists?
I have had this happen in other plans too and just can't figure it out.
I have my defaults changed to 2x8 framing and the room itself I changed to 2x8 framing but nothing changes it when i go to a crass section.
What am I missing here?

Floor joist issue.plan

This is a fairly common occurrence where my OSB sheathing appears to be showing through my standing seam metal roofing when in physically based mode.
Any thoughts on this?

Thanks

garage.plan

Thanks Eric, It was really helpful, (and fun), to watch how you worked through that.
 

Thanks guys, just moving the baselines out to the outer edge didn't do it on my plan, the protrusion was still there but much less visible.
But I looked at your plan Mark and it seemed to work so...
Cutting the wall and making the gable section into a gable wall fixed it for me.
I never understood what the gable wall or hip wall types do, they have never really seemed to make a difference when I have played with them in the past so I didn't even think of trying those.
I also never paid attention to where the baseline is located, interior or exterior of the wall. I will pay attention to this going forward.

Thanks for diving into this and helping me out.

OK, I am back here again with the same problem recreated as I moved through this project.
I was watching it this time and it occurred when I changed the 2nd floor room to "open below" and it goes away when I change the upper room back to "unspecified"
I want the main floor room to have a vaulted ceiling.
I derived the second floor plan from the first floor plan and then sectioned it off using room divider.
Then I went back to the areas where I wanted the vaulted ceiling on the first floor, went to the 2nd floor rooms and changed to "open below".
Everything is good except this one spot.
 

Roof wall issue.plan

7 hours ago, mthd97 said:

Did you look in your file folder to see if there is an auto back up file in there ?

 

You can search Chief Architect back up files. This link may help you out ?
 

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00099/accessing-your-archive-files.html

Yes, I did that. The most recent is at least an hour before my issue.
I check preferences and I have it set at 5 minutes.
I think it had something to do with uploading the plan here, I don't now.
Doesn't matter now. I will start a new day and move on.

I don't understand, I have always had my auto-save set at every 5 minutes.
I have at least an hour of work that is not in any of the auto archived plan files.

Wow, this is really a bummer.
I saved the file and closed it and sent it. Now when I went to open it, I get the file you are showing.
Which means i just lost a crap ton of work. I can't find anything in the archives newer than that either.

Here is another one. I just started this clean, i don't know what would be making this happen on one side of this roof and not the other.

As built start over 3.20.24.plan

7 minutes ago, SNestor said:

Once you draw a wall...it will not change by just changing the default. (roofs are the same)

 

If you change the default...you will have to redraw the wall.

OK but say I have a bunch of wall drawn and I now I change the default, it would seem like there would be some way to select the wall and then change it so that it now takes on the properties of the default settings? This seems like it would be a pretty basic function.

It seems I can take a railing that I have made,  and make it so the default settings will be that of that railing, but how do I make a railing change to poses the current defaults?
Some things change automatically when you change the defaults but apparently railings do not. It seems like I should be able to click on the railing and tell it to change so that it will be the railing type that I have set in the defaults.

7 hours ago, DBCooper said:

I didn't know anything about skm files but when I googled them I did find this info that might help:

 

skm files are actually renamed zip archives. If you change the extension to zip, you can find the image file (and some xml files describing certain properties). So basically you cannot convert an skm file into a jpg file but you can extract it from inside.

 

So it probably isn't too hard to make a new Chief material using the extracted jpg but you might have to play around with the material settings to get the right look.

 

Thanks for the answer. I tried that whole zip thing and couldn't get it to work. So it seems like the easiest answer is to forget about using SKM files and just look for jpegs for my textures etc.
Thank you