Heal height / baseline height

[MidSouthClay]

I have this problem all the time and I'm wondering if others run into it as well.  This great room has a 18' ceiling height.  The only way to get the wall to frame at 18' was to get rid of the vaulted ceiling and frame the walls and then set the walls to retain framing and put the ceiling planes back in.  When the roof planes are drawn one side shows Baseline Height 221 1/2" with 5 1/2" heal putting the top plate at 216"  The other side of the same room puts the baseline height at 221 1/2" with a 100 3/8" heal height and a top plate of 121 1/8"?  I really hate how the top plate can only be controlled by the room ceiling height.  I very often find my baseline and heal heights scrambled in weird ways.  I want a 12" heal on these scissor trusses.   

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[tundra_dweller]

@MidSouthClay You should be able to control your baseline height in your roof planes' dbx by locking your pitch and entering in your baseline height, which should be your top plate height + your heel height, so 216" plate + 12" heel = 228" baseline height.

 

For your right side roof plane that is giving you plate height trouble, try unchecking Flat Ceiling in the adjacent rooms in the right wing, you have custom ceiling planes in those rooms anyway. Doing that seems to fix the plate height for the great room wall.

 

Wall and roof framing for can be a real PITA to get right with adjacent rooms with different ceiling heights, even worse with scissor trusses/custom ceiling planes. Looks like you've got your hands full with this one.

 

 

[robdyck]

The first step to solving this issue is to simplify the Roof Plan layer set. Turn off EVERY layer that isn't critically important to the roof (doors, windows, framing (except beams), gutters, eaves, headers, etc. Turn ON walls, Main Layer only. Turn ON the roofs, baselines layer and make it bright and obvious. Make sure the baselines are located in the correct location...in your plan, the roof baseline position is inconsistent.

You can't reasonably set the baseline height without knowing where it is, right? Make sure the baselines are in the correct spot and then set their elevation. And once you clean up that layer set into something much different than the OOB settings, it will start to become very simple...which it should be because you have a simple building.