Private office sizing?

[DaViper]

Was hoping I could chat about this with some architects to get some ideas?  We are building a new building for our company.  I am an engineer, not an architect.  In short, I know how to make it work, but not good at 'visualizing' space.  Our office space requirement is pretty minimal as most work is done in other parts of the building.  I am looking at 2 private offices, with a reasonably sized conference area, where most business with visitors is likely to be conducted.  I mention that because it might be 'nice' to have a big office, but it cuts down on other building use space.  

 

I was working on this topic last year, as we were looking to renovate a used building, but have decided to just build new.  I have to incorporate these items in the design.  

1 - 2 private office spaces, thinking 9x10?

2 - a conference area to seat around 6 people, but usually would not exceed 4.  

3 - a small kitchenette area that is slightly out of sight from the conference area.  The basics here.  fridge, micro, sink, a bit of counter space.  Might use a mini fridge here.  

4 - bathroom, unisex.  Small  

 

The kicker is consider the building as a "shop with offices", in which I really need another bathroom on the shop side, so 2 bathrooms.  Along with another type of break room/kitchen area for workers.  

 

Basically it's starting to add up and I'm looking for smart ways to limit space use.  the building is 20ft tall but I have not really evaluated any ADA stuff if I did something possibly upstairs as the break room?  I guess that space up there is otherwise sort of wasted as the ceiling is targeted to be about 10ft.  What I need is to prevent any employee from coming into the office during a meeting to either use the bathroom or warm up lunch.  But our employee is count is limited.  Usually 4.  

 

Anyone willing to engage me on this?  Building is 60x100x20.  It's not built yet because if we are going to add anything as a second story, I need to plan footings for that for floor loads.  

[SHCanada2]

dont you need a reception and utility room?

 

[DaViper]

6 minutes ago, SHCanada2 said:

dont you need a reception and utility room?

 

Thanks for the questions.  We have never really had a need for a receptionist.  Our outside traffic in our office maybe 1-2/week.  Most of our work is digital in nature.  Utility, we can likely put some of that upstairs or in the shop area.  

[SHCanada2]

so the "front door" opens directly into the shop area and then you want these offices and conference and kitchen area off to the left or right?

 

If it was me the front door would open into a small area, perhaps with the stairs to the upstaurs, and then go down a hall way with the conference room first then the kitchen and offices at the end. 10x9 is fine for an office

[DaViper]

2 minutes ago, SHCanada2 said:

so the "front door" opens directly into the shop area and then you want these offices and conference and kitchen area off to the left or right?

 

If it was me the front door would open into a small area, perhaps with the stairs to the upstaurs, and then go down a hall way with the conference room first then the kitchen and offices at the end. 10x9 is fine for an office

Thanks.  The front door would open into the office area.  At least what I am horsing with right now, pretty much right into the conference area.  What I am trying to do is minimize the use of hallways which just eat of space.  

 

I am also thinking logically on MEP plans as I work this.  Trying to mostly keep plumbing fixtures grouped to make my life easier.   

[SHCanada2]

6 minutes ago, DaViper said:

The front door would open into the office area.  At least what I am horsing with right now, pretty much right into the conference area.

I wouldn't do this. someone will come in the front door into the meeting. not to mention if you are in a cold area, it is always nice to have two doors so the cold area does not come rushing in

 

here are some ideas to see some options:

 

 

[DaViper]

Thanks Jason!  I will hop into Chief and trying to lay something out.  I probably have a few challenges that are hard to explain such as location of offices, and where I would 'prefer' plumbing fixtures land.  But the reality is there will be extremely limited traffic in the office, and I see every inch of it as taking away from the shop area, which is of much more importance.  In a typical visit, visitors and I would quickly gravitate towards the shop area.  

[DaViper]

This is sort of what is in my head, though I have yet to figure out a little kitchen or bathroom area.  As for a 2 door entry, I am considering a vestibule.  I am open to some partitions in the commons area but the inspection area will already be a bit tight.  There is a big machine that goes in there.  

 

I realize what I am doing is not really "ideal", but I just can't sacrifice much of the floor space.  Much of our business is conducted on the phone and Inet.  At the end of the day, my office layout won't make any difference in my bottom line.  I can very much see that on an architect side though.  

[DaViper]

Here is just a really fast update I am thinking on.  Sorry for the very poor design work.  Just trying to figure out what makes sense.  

[SHCanada2]

That looks pretty good, I would mirror the bathroom fixtures so the door is at the bottom and move the office door up.

 

Always good to keep the bathroom door away from everything.

 

And make the coffee station a little wider. it looks like you have about 5ft across that little hallway. you can probably easily get away with 4ft

 

[DaViper]

6 minutes ago, SHCanada2 said:

That looks pretty good, I would mirror the bathroom fixtures so the door is at the bottom and move the office door up.

 

Always good to keep the bathroom door away from everything.

 

And make the coffee station a little wider. it looks like you have about 5ft across that little hallway. you can probably easily get away with 4ft

 

Agree on all points.  Was sort of flicking the concept, but one I am liking.  One thing I thought of is if I install another door into the shop near that bathroom, that might allow me to ignore any 2nd story improvements for some time as I think any employees could sneak in there without much business side conflict.  

 

I am still trying to find a smooth way to break up the entry so you don't actually walk right into the conference area.  Thinking pony wall or something.  Not sure just yet.  

[SHCanada2]

I would just put a wall with a door there and a glass window in the wall