flightcrazed Posted April 17, 2024 Share Posted April 17, 2024 Hi everyone, I'm designing a modern farmhouse style RCA barn with living quarters on 2nd floor and struggling with the stairs. My design calls for L shaped stairs beginning in the right "lean to" going thru the main center section wall as shown below. I'm wanting to maximize headroom while allowing for proper structural needs (i'm not sure how high we can go into that wall). Obviously need to stay below the top of shed roof but question is how far below. For reference, the 7'3" measurement on "Perspective Framing" drawing is from top of landing to bottom of double top plate. The 7'6" on cross section is to top of same plate. Nice to have: keep riser above 7" (close to 7 1/4") Much appreciated team! Let me know if you need any more drawings/details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted April 17, 2024 Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 4:30 PM, flightcrazed said: same plate Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightcrazed Posted April 17, 2024 Author Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 6:02 PM, Renerabbitt said: Expand Thanks @Renerabbitt for the help here. Sorry it's the white section with 7'6" measurement depicted here i'm struggling with. The 7'6 is top of the plate, 7'3 would be bottom (of top). Do i need a header under that as well? I'm nervous having such little head room as it is for moving furniture up the stairs. Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted April 17, 2024 Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 7:35 PM, flightcrazed said: Thanks @Renerabbitt for the help here. Sorry it's the white section with 7'6" measurement depicted here i'm struggling with. The 7'6 is top of the plate, 7'3 would be bottom (of top). Do i need a header under that as well? I'm nervous having such little head room as it is for moving furniture up the stairs. Much appreciated! Expand This is a code minimum is what I am referring to: It looks as if you have a structural support above your first riser which requires 6'8 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightcrazed Posted April 17, 2024 Author Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 7:49 PM, Renerabbitt said: This is a code minimum is what I am referring to: It looks as if you have a structural support above your first riser which requires 6'8 min. Expand That's probably my sloppy drawing :). Here's another view. Highlighted area is what i'm tryna figure out. Can i put header above plates (so i don't reduce the headroom from 7'3")? And is 7'3" even reasonable for living quarters upstairs (the only living quarters in this building)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renerabbitt Posted April 17, 2024 Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 8:14 PM, flightcrazed said: That's probably my sloppy drawing :). Here's another view. Highlighted area is what i'm tryna figure out. Can i put header above plates (so i don't reduce the headroom from 7'3")? And is 7'3" even reasonable for living quarters upstairs (the only living quarters in this building)? Expand well, 6'8 is code minimum because its allowable...same height of clearance as a door which we all have to walkthrough. Without knowing the implications of the structural change its possible you could put a flush beam, consult an engineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightcrazed Posted April 17, 2024 Author Share Posted April 17, 2024 On 4/17/2024 at 8:32 PM, Renerabbitt said: well, 6'8 is code minimum because its allowable...same height of clearance as a door which we all have to walkthrough. Without knowing the implications of the structural change its possible you could put a flush beam, consult an engineer. Expand copy that. yeah, my door is 8' so i'd like to be closer to that. i'll check with engineer...appreciate the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-Reed Posted April 24, 2024 Share Posted April 24, 2024 Remember, you can place a support beam / header within the wall above in order to maintain the code minimum head room requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightcrazed Posted April 24, 2024 Author Share Posted April 24, 2024 On 4/24/2024 at 4:30 PM, M-Reed said: Remember, you can place a support beam / header within the wall above in order to maintain the code minimum head room requirement. Expand Thank you! I did end up talking to my engineer who basically said, "don't cut into the top plates". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para-CAD Posted April 25, 2024 Share Posted April 25, 2024 Maybe you have room to start your stairs 1 tread back at the top. You'd be 1 riser lower at the platform that way. Also you could reduce your treads to 10" and you'd also gain a riser in 10 treads. What is your overall floor to floor height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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