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On 1/14/2023 at 11:39 AM, SheriC said:

You should keep your politics out of your board room.

While some of your points are well taken you are the first person here to mention politics.

It is not easier for any of us to swallow but until you are a Software vendor you can't understand what happens to your revenue stream as your product product matures.  I have used a couple of CAD programs that ceased to exist and in hindsight may have payed a yearly fee to keep time alive.  That said, depends on the yearly fee.  If I were a new user I probably would not pay $199/month. I avoided Autodesk when they went subscription..

Understandably a casual user as you are it is though.. As Eric mentioned a lower tier may be your option.

3 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

Ah, and finally the children with the down votes have decided to join the discussion.

I wish Chief would get rid of the voting nonsense.. This in not Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter..Every I see my wife spend her time upvoting on Instagram, I go nearly crazy. 

19 minutes ago, EdEmery12 said:

Question:

 

If I buy a new/renew SSA subscription today will that keep me from having to buy a subscription plan?

Would that qualify for updates going forward?  

I have paid thousands of dollars buying chief over the years really seems like a raw deal to make us pay $199.00 a month now.

 

Thanks,

Ed Emery

Until January 10th NOTHING changes.. Buy all the new Licenses you wish w/ $595 SSA before that date.. it's why they may get a bump in sales before then..

9 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

I think ethan ashby said it best for me...without any roadmap, this news just feels like a betrayal. I'm hoping this leads to better things, and I am a big brand advocate but he's right, we shouldve been given some more context.
The optimist in me even feels like big news is around the corner but wont be shared until after Jan 10, which is not how I do business personally..be open and transparent. All conjecture of course
 

Very good point but Chief has no idea what the revenue stream in the future will now look like so probably can't predict what resources can be added to improve Chief.

Adding to my previous post.. The new pricepoint means Chief now directly competes with Vectorworks, Revit, and Archicad.. I think that is rough considering Chief's rough edges. I think increasing SSA to say.. $950 would have been a better idea but I am sure they thought of that before settling on this.

The only thing guaranteed is change (potential pain).. and people dislike change..

I have been a Datacad user for YEARS but stopped upgrading a few years ago since they had reached maturity and were adding very little.. They now have a maintenance model which I will have to pay up to catch up but I likely won't as they are implementing 3D Autocad style. I understand they need the money but the idea that they stop improving (REAL improvements) while I pay every year bugs me .. probably because of what I got used to "buying" software.

Ownership or rental is a weird subject as far as Digital things go.  You rent a car/house right..? but they degrade and heed maintenance which Software doesn't (unless OS forced).  Music.. Mariah Carey makes a mint off that Christmas song literally forever.. mostly from advertising.

Where this will take Chief is very hard to predict.  I have feeling they make a windfall before January 10th partly from those that were on the fence with SSA (only $595) and those that may want a new license in the next couple of years may front-run the new subscription model.  If I am making $200k/year what is $2k for THE most important tool I use right..?  All this is great until there is a big economic slowdown.

The rent as needed idea IS likely the best but it must be nearly impossible to implement..

Soooo simple... once you think the way Chief thinks..

Many thanks Mick.. 

Hello,

Haven't work in Chief for some time.. should more consistently for muscle memory..! At the entry of this house the Stone walls and brick walls are all set to 5" overhangs.. However the Roof (First Floor) is requiring quite different manual overhang to look the same in 3d. Looks like the overhangs are 5" from the brick rather than main layer. I've checked the walls.. no answer there..

Thanks

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I bought an MSI laptop in June and Chief ran fine until November, then the problem began.. I dearly miss Windows 7.. 

14 minutes ago, dskogg said:

Got it fixed, i had to disable this program

Nahimic

Had 3D issues in Chief last last month.. Chief support had me disable disabling this as well. It is an audio utility some gaming laptops come with..

18 hours ago, stevenyhof said:

What does PBR stand for? Getting that from the other post.

Steve,

Physically Based Rendering was added to Chief a couple of versions ago.. The intent I think is to address what you are experiencing, the wait for rendering passes. PBR is MUCH, MUCH faster (essentially live renders) than Ray-tracing with quality that is very close to better.. ONCE you figure it out.. Graham is excellent at it... Many have stopped Raytracing once PBR is learned..

PBR VS Raytracing - General Q & A - ChiefTalk Forum (chiefarchitect.com)

ps. check your messages..

PBR..?

On 2/16/2019 at 2:09 AM, andburto said:

Can you get this to snap your lines to crisp straight lines as you draw?

Once a sketch is complete, can you import it to Chief for use in a meaningful way?  I.e. a tile layout etc.

 

Thanks

Andrew

Andrew.. so sorry.. My notifications was not on..

Yes in Concepts you can draw straight crisp lines and well as curves, ellipses, Circles.. etc. And when done you can export dxf or SVG vector files..

11 hours ago, Archnot-Boltz said:

Looks pretty rocking, I guess more bang for buck and portability than a 17"? I assume you hook it up to a monitor for dual screen capability?

 

DataCad17, I didn't know they were still in business. Any improvement over the Dos original which I found difficult to learn? thnaks-bB

Yes 15" the sweet spot for me.. the smallest form factor that can accommodate a 10-key numeric keypad... I keep it's monitor off and connect to 2 monitors via mini-display port and hdmi..works great. Datacad is still recognizable compared to it's DOS ancestors but much improved.. stopped upgrading 3 versions ago as it's 3D effort is similar to Chief's 2D effort.. weak when compared to programs that started as 3D or 2D, respectively.. It's a 2D dream.

Funny I just moved from Desktop to Laptop... depends on how mobile you need to be. Laptops have come a looong way... Hubs are now available for extra connections and the expansion argument is diminishing.. IMO.  These days I tend replace the whole thing every 4 years rather than upgrading parts. The ideal still may be a superfast desktop AND an ok Laptop for when you need to be mobile.. OR a Desktop small enough to be portable (depends on what kind of mobility is needed), while having better cooling than fast Laptops.. this is what I got..

These duplicates however, locate the same material when you right-click and show in folder.. Not a huge deal ultimately, but weird.

Mick,

It's been a while on this but finally called Chief Support and they duplicated the same and will research why it is happening.... Type in "blue" and this is my result.. The resulting duplicates point to ONE material in the Core Libraries.. Materials duplicated JUST in the search. Replacing all Core libraries made no difference.  No one else has noticed this..?

10 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this?  What settings are you referring to that don't currently save and that you need to "fiddle" with every time?

I am referring to Render technique settings.. the ability to save settings for different effects. If these save with the views it would take care of this.

13 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

This is an odd statement.

A.  They're new to Chief and definitely improvements, so obviously worth noting.

B.  They're really not minor at all IMO.  Some of those items are MAJOR time savers.  For a person who does a lot of terrains, the ability to trim terrain lines alone could easily make the upgrade worth it.

For Chief DEFINITELY welcome and will be time-savers and you are right, major for Chief.. But not major when other Modelling and CAD programs have had these for very long. I am grateful Chief now has them but I take them for granted elsewhere.. hope you see my perspective.

1 hour ago, lbuttery said:

Chief be sold in modules to help keep the cost down

 

 

Not in software but won't this simply reduce Chief's revenues while possibly increasing their programming expenses..? Unless you think increased sales would tilt the equation..

Great release..

Hopefully saved Cameras will save the SETTINGS as well,.. that would be great to set and not fiddle every time.

Pluses..

Stairs got "some" attention..

Roof Pivot controls..

Multiple Layout..

Style palette could be interesting..

However editing Solids in any view.. dimensions improvements.. point to point.. centering.. trimming terrain lines..  All very welcome but really should not be mentioned as new features as they are very minor and are CAD 101 Chief should have had from day ONE..

Really wish PBR got some attention..!

I don't interiors, remodels, or schedules so a good many new features not useful to me..

Can’t these posts be moved...?

Sorry my fault.. Yes materials.. I have copied nothing and a lot of these duplicates I have never used in any projects.. A huge number of them are affected..

Not sure why but most of my symbols are duplicated (or more)...

16 minutes ago, solver said:

Like this?

 

 

 

And a suggestion. You have the default pitch set to 10, then you are overriding it to either 8 or 12 in the walls.

 

Instead set the default to whatever most of the roof planes use, then override in only the walls where the roof plane is different.

Good advice... went manual to finish..

Thanks Eric.... were you able to get the Roof split with auto..? that plane remains all 8:12 even though the house wall is set to 12:12.. Note Chief does not label this conflicted plane.. I could do it manually but...

This worked fine over the weekend,, As Porch wall pitch is changed the Roof autobuilds with new pitches.. Now it doesn't respond to any wall pitch changes.. The walls are set to 8:12 but the Roof builds to 12:12 every time, ignoring the wall Roof Specs.. The red lines are what we should have.. etc. I come back to Chief after a long hiatus and I have to learn to program again.  Probably some default setting, but I haven't changed anything there..

Thanks..!

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