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1 hour ago, sweetmelissa said:

Stick to the question asked!

Already answered

Forgot to mention- FWIW around here a range that close to a wall won't fly with the inspector, nor will a standard shelf that close to a range top. YMMV

7 hours ago, sweetmelissa said:

the molding on top) don't even show up if the elevation is clipped to the room.

So turn OFF clip to room.... First adjust the end of camera focus, turn OFF clip to room, then turn on back clip after.

I added shelves and a cabinet with molding to the plan you sent since there was only one shelf and no cabinet. I did have to raise the one panel up 7/8". No idea why but easy enough.

I do this with niches, while the last one I did did not have cabinets inside it did have a shelf. (look familiar :-) 

Thought some. Easier to place a wall, use shelve or wall cabinet, not a tall.

For placing into the Niche use the point to point tool . I'm not sure there is an icon for that, I use a hotkey.

I'd also make a tall cabinet with all of the shelves adjusted but nothing else. Place the other cabinets, move them into the tall with point to point, then block, move the block in place. Plan attached.

I don't see where you're measurement issues are but may be because the niche has a bottom to it?

When in doubt temporarily expand the clip lines to show all of the floor and draw a cad line at finished floor- (lock Length/Angle) to see what is going on.

Make Block.zip

I should have mentioned that the cabinet supplied measures 25.5 inches wide. The Y offset for the hutch side can be set to zero. Then the cabinet would measure 24. There will be some other issues in vector view that's tricky to clean up. The shelf fixture symbol might need adjustment then.

Which way depends on what's most important.

On 5/11/2024 at 6:23 PM, Breeze_Design said:

sounds like i will have to learn this skill

Yes you should BUT calling it a custom cabinet door is a bit oversimplified. More like 3 custom doors and some tricky cabinet manipulation. At least the only way I know.

Parts from a recent one with an adjustment close to yours I think, sides may be a little different.

Open everything in the attached plan, every tab, then try on your own. 

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valet cab.zip

23 hours ago, Sandor09 said:

The style of the doors was created in a 3D DWG with glass but when I import it as a cabinet model the door only accepts one texture for the entire door, either white or all glass.

That can be a typical problem with 3d dwg depending on the original program used. I never found a simple solution but as I remember (poorly) did find a way to map textures to surfaces (slow,tedious) using TurboCad. There could be an easier way but....

There are several ez and quick methods for creating custom doors within Chief. Search the forum.

I have almost entirely used doors I created in Chief for over 10 years. A few folks use Sketchup.

7 hours ago, 3dsDan said:

Can someone please help me? 

I can't say why you are getting the results we see without having the symbol to look at. The DBX you posted will do nothing for it. I have a hunch it has to do with stretch planes/zones and/or origin. Partly because you have the cabinet depth set to less than the original symbol.

Attached back is your plan with some options and symbols. Open the symbols and check ALL the tabs.

Using a mattress with pillows creates depth problems if you are trying to size the cabinet to RL

I've also included a plan that is how I would do this. I prefer using a cabinet door symbol. This allows more control over sizing. The down side to this method is you have to make a new symbol if you want to change the door style. Since I've had so few calls for these over the years (last one was a decade ago) I don't mind that. Just save the plan so you can simply change the door style, select it and the mattress and make new symbol. Copy settings from one that works.

Using a mattress that has NO pillows also helps with sizing. You won't have pillows sticking out the back. This allows you to set the depth of the mattress and cabinet so they both match. My preference would be to float pillows set on a different layer. Only show when open and don't show when closed. If you only need to show open the include them as a seperate fixture attached to the back of the door so you don't run into size issues.

Couple of other things.

• I only use base cabinets when I want a counter or a top of a different material than the cabinet. For this I would use a tall cabinet.
• I NEVER use frameless cabinets in Chief. Over the years I have sold very few frameless cabinetst that were not inset, 85% of have been frameless and I have always used framed in Chief. Framed cabinets with a 3/4" separation gives much more control. It also eliminates using blank space instead of separations- they are NOT the same thing and blank have some issues at times.
• When making symbols always check ALL the tabs of the original symbols, especially the stretch planes and origins.

Original.zip Plain Mattress as Door.zip

One problem is the intersection with the wall with door. Fixed that by dragging it through the pony wall while in an elevation, turning the portion to invisible., setting wall with door as "Through wall at end"

To get height to ceiling open the railing wall used in the pony wall and adjust the height of the railing, need to account for floor thickness to get it right. 

33 minutes ago, westvale said:

Anyone know how I could make this reeded glass partition with black frame in Chief

Plan attached, open it and convert this to a symbol cabinet door or regular door depending on your use.

Reeded glass door.zip

Sent a PM. Looking for one long term professional client only.

@KitchenLady Not sure if you read the PM but since I'm very interested and you mentioned inset thought I should put in a bit of effort.

Top 2 kitchens and the hutches are my work as a KD (older); wine room, kitchen with reeded island, reeded doors and backlit perf panel are for a client. Details are from the top two kitchens. 

1 hour ago, HumbleChief said:

And I've looked all over for a 'delete extra floors' check box to uncheck it but its too well hidden for me.

That shows up when you use File, save as template

Attached file has 108" first floor and 97" second floor.

2nd fl 97.zip

Open new blank plan, set first floor default. Add second floor also blank, set height. Save as template, uncheck delete extra floors.

1 hour ago, chiefuserJason94 said:

creating kitchen appliances that have panels

Depending on your needs.

Simplest for just the look; use cabinets and rename them. You will need to adjust reveal and/or incorporate small openings.

If you want them in a cabinet schedule for ordering you can float door panels and block.

Or

Use a cabinet for each panel which is easier to place, schedule can include width an height but depth will be wrong.

Or

A combination where you make from cabinets, not include in schedule,  for plan and 3D, and also float panels somewhere out of the way on a separate layer to include in schedule.

Note.

Flush inset paneled can be complicated if you need completely accurate image with all parts. Instead they're easy enough to approximate the look and include a cad detail.

For any..

Start in a new plan. Save stages by copy/ paste. Keep a folder to save those plans in for the future.

Also save final results to folder(s) in library.

Look into saving results as style palettes depending on method used.

First unchecked framing for the concrete and made it one taller pony then moved in the short wall, did nothing.

Moved TP and solid out of the way, shortened tall pony, pulled curb wall- NG.

Then reversed tall pony and pulled curb wall again, voila.

just did before you asked changed plan upload

Could not reproduce.

shower.plan

(width/3).ceil*3

16 hours ago, dshall said:

They have CA,  but they do cabinets in 20/20

IMO the only thing 2020 offers is pricing.

When I was transitioning to CA still using both I would set up labels in Chief and do all drawing there. Then export a cabinet schedule to spreadsheet. Open an "item list" in 2020; copy paste the codes into it; voila, pricing. You could add mods to that in 2020, or as I did put them in an OIP field (or just comments %comment% if that is not used otherwise) so they also end up in the schedule. I always kept a PDF price catalog open on a second screen just in case.

Getting nomenclature to match

Back in the day I first typed it in and added to library and used replace from library. Then worked out a couple of macros, eventually settling on very simple ones IOW not a macro that tries to label every type of cabinet. (I had one for a specific brand that was a bear to do and then got broken with an upgrade version)

Nowadays I would proceed to use a macro for the default label. Simplest would just point to the Code (%component_code%) field OR a bit more complicated but simple enough reads from an OIP field.

Depending on the brand the auto label could still go into that field. For other brands use very simple macros to get correct nomenclature for the majority of cabinets. Some brands always want the label to read in 3" increments and size mods are separate. For those set up a dimension macro that round up to a 3" increment -   (width/3).ceil*3

For cabinets that would require a complicated macro don't bother. Instead just type in the code and use size macros. Every time you do that set up a Style palette for that type of cabinet. In the long run most folks will only need a dozen of so. Once that is done it's fast and ez to get nomenclature into the schedule.

FWIW The system is not all that much different than what I did when I only used 2020 because the pricing was so unreliable. After I got Chief I used some version of that with 6 different brands (2 with nomenclature designed by the devil). Toward the end I was handling 3 brands with a total of 9 lines of cabinets. Only one brand supported 2020. Depending on brand I used this system for all of them either putting the information into an online ordering system (drag and drop) or into a spreadsheet order form template. It was faster to put the order in online with drag and drop than to bother using 2020 which now collects dust.

Have not used in a decade but last I knew not as anything useful other than a symbol. At least I doubt anything with intelligence. Certainly not usable cabinets anymore than you could import a wall type into CA from cad.

FWIW when I was using it the supposed interoperability with Envisioneer was a mess and support for that non-existant.

What do they need from Chief in 2020?

21 hours ago, Leadcarpo said:

when I try to delete one, it says that it is used in the Rooms schedule

Open Defaults, shedules, room finish schedule. Uncheck Room. Then you can delete.

15 hours ago, theKurt said:

How long did this take you???

Not sure as I said legs and molding are the longest part. FWIW I made this from the one I already had in under 10 minutes. (used the symbol for the bead instead of the molding lines)

Oops just saw you are using full overlay few more minutes though I cheated a bit, just change the default separations and knobs.

On 3/4/2024 at 11:04 PM, theKurt said:

Chief Architect Premier X15 and when I needed a specific vanity from Costco

Welcome aboard  while you didn't ask as @DBCooper suggested you can do this in CA mostly with cabinet tools which have some advantages. It would likely be easier to make a few parts on SW since you know that. (Legs and hardware- rest in Chief)

I did all of this in CA.

Advantages being: would show in cabinet schedule, simple to resize/reuse, change doors/drawers/hardware, and of course materials. I understand that this is an off the shelf item but down the road you never know and I like to minimize remaking things.

The most tedious part in CA are the legs which I started before fully awake so fiddled a bit. Unfortunately the bead molding around the cabinet can't be done within the cabinet since it won't wrap the legs. Just before posting it occurred to me that it should be turned into a symbol to be easier to resize width and length so put one in the plan.

Plan attached including some of the failed parts for legs before I woke up. I didn't bother to do custom door or drawer symbols, just fished something close out of mfg catalog. Plan attached.

Cosco vanity.zip

Open an unmodified template, hopefully the residential has not been fooled with. Save as "something". In your plan- file, import saved plan views. Select working from the DBX and check replace.

Though to me the purpose of the working plan is that it can be whatever I need at the moment and NEVER ever gets sent to layout. Making the default moot. The other plan views however need to be dealt with judiciously.

5 hours ago, Steve_Matlaga said:

there an advantage to using a side inset, vs. a door panel? 

Well a door panel is automatically full overlay and usually includes rails and stiles. Likely could be done but more work, less flexible.

Why do you want to?