mrscott

Rick, This is the best example of RT ever...amazing results produced completely inside of Chief...I gave you thumbs up for this one too. I just posted to DesignerInk’s beautiful work and step to reproduce. Would you do the same for with your image? Again, absolutely stunning. Thanks for sharing,

Well, I can honestly say your work is the first living proof “I have seen” that in the right hands quality results are achievable in Chief X10. Not that others have not shown us some good stuff, you Sir, have backed up your work up with “How it is done in the real world” example of what X10 can produce. This harkens back to a thread I started over a year ago (will send you the link) where “Chief Only” RT work could be shared so the “Rest of Us” could learn how to master RT without the aide of third party post production. The intent, which never took root, was for user to produce simple yet thorough video of their process. Showcasing ones work is nothing more than grandstanding but to share your fndngs shows the mark of a true gentlemen and professional. Absolutely stunning work. Thank you for sharing,

Nicely Done!

Do you know if these elements have been improved in later versions? Other than those two elements, how does it compare to Chief in completing a set of accurate CONDOCs including, materials, framing, etc?

Great thread and fine responses from a well respected group of users. I do have one question(s) to any that feel are qualified to respond. THE FOLLOWING IS DIRECTED ONLY AT RESIDENTIAL DESIGN AND CONDOCS With respect to Sketch 2018 Pro and Revit 2018 (EXCLUSIVE OF COST)...for a complete and structurally accurate (framing, etc) design and Construction software package, would you still choose Chief Considerations: I have heard Revit is complicated to learn but hey Chief is no Sunday Stroll in the park either, especially when it lacks...well, take stairs and go from there, and Sketch is relatively easy but requires a lot of plug-ins to do things that Chief does out of the box. P.S. I love and have made too big an investment in time, if not money, in Chief to abandoned using it but must be honest. Lately, I have started looking at other options. Thank you,

Michael, For me, the bottom line is how straight forward and intuitive a program is to use. Some people catch on quickly to many challenging applications. Hell, I've been drawing with Chief since X5 but only in the past 2 years have I really started to seriously focus on it. You know, we've spoken, you and I. I am not and will never be the kind of user like you and many other power dudes are, and that's okay. I'm glad guys like you give us the time of day and guide us along the way through Chief! Funny, I can still see and hear my brother when I got the first Commodor 64. 5-1/4 floppies and all, he looked at me as said, "When you can tell that thing what you want and it does it, I'll buy one!" Well, he's come around since and is an avid user. My point...Software needs to be intuitive enough for the mass audience a company needs to grow and prosper. You, my friend, are not the one to comment here because what comes easy and ho hum (because that's how you think and that's cool - I envy you!) but for many others, what you do in your sleep we have to struggle with for days. It's programs like Lumion that are doing it right, and that is why I did not hesitate to get onboard. I just wish I wasn't fighting Chief so much to get what I want done so I could spend time in Lumion, Where lumber need to go on plan by the CPU should not drive how we look at it. If I am on level 1 (first floor) then I want to draw and view everything that is associated with the 1st Floor on the 1st Floor. What's wrong with that? Let the computer figure out the best and correct place to print it and order it to the layout. All I want to do is sort by layer for the first floor. I know that was very simple and probably lame to all you construction gurus out there. I do understand a good bit about the process but! The avg Joe just wants to draw a correct set of plans then move onto construction, and maybe make it pretty and realistic looking in the process to attract a potential buyer, Okay, I've gone on too long again, sorry. Perhaps I need to sit with someone does 400 plans a year that has a system of spiting these things out. Then maybe I'll get a system down. Chief is a LOVE HATE relationship for me. I will continue to renew my SSA each year and support those who are true guides and mentors. Speaking of...There is only one person I have met that has been a true inspiration and an honest help in me getting organize with Chief. Cudos to Jared Baehmer. His template work is amazing, straight forward and as help me more in the last few months than I have through all other channels combined. He takes his and is patient in explaining and work through areas until you get it. If someone needs REAL help getting established with Chief He's there man! I could rattle of a number of others, like yourself, that have helped and been and inspiration along the way, but I will probably forget someone so I will not try. BTW, I will get a Lumion video done :-)

Will have to try on desktop and not iPhone. thanks

Johnny, it’s not playing!

Sure! Just been VERY busy get plans done for paying clients. Only break briefly to respond to these msgs. I will do one better.... how about a video show the actual process? Later!

I think those of us the have it we were all trying to tell everyone that Lumion 8 TRULY IS "What you see is what you get!" And unlike Chief, VERY INTUITIVE TO LEARN AND FUN TO BOOT! Welcome aboard!

Happy New Year to too! Only briefly as I have been very busy with Design projects and have been blessed in that area with more than I expected to be doing at this time. It's a bit of a mixed blessing as I would like to spend time in Lumion and dig in deep. I love modeling but really want to transform the model into a realistic animated show piece but have to focus on my customers first. I'm already booked for the next few months and have and interview next Friday for another remodeling job so... Life is Good! Have you the time to delve into Lumion?

Graham, I recently purchased Lumion 8 Pro and can Attest to the authenticity of Lumion 8's sample styles ARE "WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET!"!!!!!! Open, Load, and push the button. UTTERLY AMAZING!!!!! So, with all due respect.....Jintu is true to His word and one of the few I know of Real Integrity, like yourself, willing to help those like me with less knowledge but a work of interest and desire. Thank you all!

What happened to this post? Hi mrscott, SMCDesign has posted a comment on a topic, Lumion 8 rendering teaser video SMCDesign said: On 12/5/2017 at 9:04 PM, mrscott said: if you have not tried the Trial don’t! Unless you intend to purchase it. Once you experience Lumion 8 you’ll be hooked! I wish I had read your warning before I tried the trial! Now I have to buy it. Here's a link to a video generated from the demo version. https://www.youtube.com/embed/U02QmnKg9Bs?feature=oembed Go to this post — ChiefTalk Forum

Well said ChopSaw! And yes, a tremendous effort on the part of ShowMeChief (SMC) to tackle such a complex ceiling. Assuming SMC is willing, we could all learn from a step by step with pics. Myself, I would record a video talking through the steps and forget all the text. User could watch and pause as they follow along. As an aside, and given my limited knowledge, I keep thinking how any element we use in a plan can one day translate to a material list. You can go to the lumber yard and order a soffit or a slab or a Psolid. Granted the Chief elements do make a beautiful model, as SMC has demonstrated, but how will Chief these parts in a Material list for pricing and ordering? Again, great effort SMC and cudos to all who helped in the process.

Don’t feel bad, I’ve been using Chief since X7 and I still have trouble. Thank the good Lord for all the Gurus here. BTW, I love your handle “ShowMeChief”. I should change mine to “HelpMePlease”. LOL!

Yup! Looks like PSolid subtraction operation to me. Could be done but has nothing to do with how it would be done in the real world. If you can’t make it ...Fake it! Kind of Sad really. We can drawn fully layered walls but not the ceiling in the picture.

Sorry, I was seeing X10 when the new release of Lumion is 8. I love Chief and the PBR is great but not yet where Lumion has been and is now even better. Chief is making great strides but until it is as easy to use as Lumion I’ll build on Chief and finish in Lumion. It’s too easy to place materials, lighting and well control the whole environment in Lumion I made could no longer hold out waiting for an All-in-one package from chief. Yes, it’s $3400 but what you can do with a great Chief Collada model is frankly, Amazing!!!!! From furniture, textiles, materials to a 3D person walking a dog, even a piece of pie on the dinner table. It truly is a whole new world that will sell that model you worked so hard to get right. if you have not tried the Trial don’t! Unless you intend to purchase it. Once you experience Lumion 8 you’ll be hooked!

Jay, I think your ssa has to be current for the license to X10 is available in your account. Otherwise, you pay a higher price for X10.

Dermot, thanks for for your reply and honest thoughts. Your point is well taken. What concerns me is the rapid acceleration the demand of software is placing on all of us. When I built my Dual Xeon the decision was based mainly on the fact that ray Tracing performs better with more cores. Today, it appears Rendering has improved in many Design and rendering developers offerings with more demand placed on GPU’s and less on core count. So, I’m leaning toward I7’s-8700k 3.7GHz - 4.3GHz clock speed and 6 cores and dual GTX 1070’s 8GB each in SLI all in a Laptop. This will give me all I need on the road and at the office in one package....at least for the next few years.

Mick, The external Monitors are part of my Workstation config and don't plan to upgrade those anytime soon. I also have a 46" 1920 x 1080 display as my 4th monitor above the other 3. BUDGET....well, I would like to stay under 3K but as we have all come to learn with technology, Moore's Law is out the Window these days so, it is best to get the Best you can today are risk upgrading soon than expected and well, there goes the any sort of budgeting. Thanks to Mark I have tabled the MSI unit and am actually looking at this one. https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP9877-S.html

Kbird, I can't modify the MSI unit so I model the two SAGER offerings as best as I could to mirror their "upgrade offerings" to get the price as close as possible to the MSI. I agree with Mark as, too, would like the 8700 6 core at 3.7GHz standard clock speeds BUT, SAGER is not a on Lumion 8 recommended list of Gold level Laptops so, I will need to check with them first. Thanks for everyone's feedback.

Mark, This is what I found. NP9877 Notebook $3,713.00 X UpdateIn stock: 12/19/2017 Remove | Edit $3,713.00 Components - 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor ( 6 Cores, 12MB Smart Cache, 3.70GHz Base / 4.70GHz Max ) - 17.3" 3K QHD, 120Hz 5ms Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (2560 x 1440) Back Order! (ETA: 12/19/2017) - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GPU with 8GB GDDR5X Video Memory - Stock Standard Thermal Compound - Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled - 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 16GB [+$199.00] - 1TB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD - Slot 2 [+$695.00] - 1TB 5400rpm SATA3 Hard Drive - Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module Software & Services - Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty - Close NP9175-S Notebook $3,999.00 X Update Remove | Edit $3,999.00 Components - 8th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Processor ( 6 Cores, 12MB Smart Cache, 3.70GHz Base / 4.70GHz Max ) - 17.3" Full HD IPS Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) - 90 days No Dead Pixel Guarantee Screen Calibration - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GPU with 8GB GDDR5X Video Memory - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU - Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled - 32GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 16GB - 2TB Samsung 960 Pro M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD - 1TB 5400rpm SATA3 Hard Drive - Killer Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module Software & Services - Sager 1 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

Point me to where I can and I'll take a look. So far I am not finding it. opps! Found it. https://www.sagernotebook.com/Intel-Core-i7-8700K/ Drives are smaller and less ram to stay under $3K Thanks,

MSI GT73VR TITAN PRO-872 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Display Extreme Gaming Laptop i7-7820HK GTX 1080 8G 32GB 1TB SSD + 1TB Display: 17.3" FHD, Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 120Hz 5ms 94% NTSC 1920 x 1080 | Keyboard: Steel Series Full-color backlight with Anti-Ghost key + silver lining CPU: Intel Core i7-7820HK (2.9 - 3.9GHz) Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8G GDDR5X RAM: 32GB (16G*2) DDR4 2400MHz 4 Sockets; Max Memory 64GB | HDD: Super RAID 1TB SSD [512GB*2] M.2 SATA + 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm Special Features: 120Hz 5ms Display | VR Ready | RGB Steel Series Keyboard | Nahimic 2 Audio | Thunderbolt I've passed my Laptop onto my wife and I need to have a laptop for field work. I also need this power house (i7-7820HK running 2.9 - 3.9 Ghz boost out of the box) it is overclockable, and the 1080 8gb Titan GTX GPU all to make Lumion 8 Pro sing! My Dual Xeon works okay with Lumion it is only slightly above the acceptable benchmarks recommendation so, it's time to get upgrade. Yes this laptop is bigger and heavier than my current Del (see specs in signature), I will also be able to take advantage of the Thunderbolt 3 port to attached my three external 24" monitors and essentially have a new Workstation all-in-one. Given how I am ranking the value for $2999.00, I'm confident there is little out there that will surpass it at this price point.

Demot. What would you buy TODAY? I just passed my current Laptop (listed in my signature) and am looking at the MSI GT73VR TITAN PRO-872 17.3" 120Hz 5ms Display Extreme Gaming Laptop i7-7820HK GTX 1080 8G 32GB 1TB SSD + 1TB Display: 17.3" FHD, Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 120Hz 5ms 94% NTSC 1920 x 1080 | Keyboard: Steel Series Full-color backlight with Anti-Ghost key + silver lining CPU: Intel Core i7-7820HK (2.9 - 3.9GHz) Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 8G GDDR5X RAM: 32GB (16G*2) DDR4 2400MHz 4 Sockets; Max Memory 64GB | HDD: Super RAID 1TB SSD [512GB*2] M.2 SATA + 1TB (SATA) 7200rpm Special Features: 120Hz 5ms Display | VR Ready | RGB Steel Series Keyboard | Nahimic 2 Audio | Thunderbolt 3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ND6D14/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I2SUX5LBFQNDQA&colid=16GEH821OW0HN&psc=0 Thanks in advance for our thoughts,