ladycoralie

On 02/03/2018 at 9:26 PM, JiAngelo said:

This is without any porches covered with roofs.  The back gable is scissored within the main truss.  I used 8/12 pitches.  (see first 3 attachments.)

 

The fourth attachment removes the hip and uses a common truss with a scissor on the back end to achieve the gable in the back area.  It destroys the front right gable, but I think this could be worked around with some half trusses.

 

The last attachment is my drawing over your sketch extending the lines that control the roof points (disregarding your interior for the moment.)  I changed all my gable roofs to 4" yellow so that you can see them easier.

 

Once you like the roof, lock it, and redraw the interior to match what you want - noting any bearing points that need to follow through to the foundation.

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

 

On 03/03/2018 at 1:13 AM, JiAngelo said:

Coralie,

 

I didn't catch you'd included the plan in your first post.  I downloaded it and fixed it  See attached.  Couple of notes.

 

1. You need to leave the back left master bath wall as a hip, not a gable.  It explodes the roof.
2. Changed the front right wall of this left master to a hip, not a gable
3. put room dividers on the right bedroom rooms that split the vault-flat lines (like the hall, half the W/C and the left side of what looks like pantry?
4. Set all the rooms you want vaulted to "no ceiling" just roof on the structure tab.
5. I added roof planes at 25 degrees in the back room - extending out so that you can see the scissor.  you can move these back in or set them to 37 degrees if you are conventional framing.
6. Same for the roof planes in the front right bedroom.  I set these to 25 degrees and extended them out so you can see the scissor.
7. On the left master, I left the planes at 37 degrees.
8. Look at the 3d view and turn on Glass House and spin it around I think you will see how the ceiling planes all come together.
9. For the last part,  I turned off automatic roofs and extended out some roof planes to force the gable on the back side.  I had to clean up some of the remaining roof planes.  Not sure how to walk you through all of it.  It's just something I know how to do from lots of practice.

Take a look and let me know your thoughts.

 

It was fun working in metric  

 

 

 

The Dunk-Fixed.plan

Hi JiAngelo,

Thanks so much for having a go at my plan. That looks pretty good. I'm going to go through each of the steps you did and see if I can replicate it. But I really like te way it turned out. I really appreciate you going through it step by step. That helps a lot. this may sound silly, but you mentioned locking the roof when I like it. How do you do that?

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

On 02/03/2018 at 0:16 PM, johnny said:

 

^^^^ QFT

Sorry, I don't know what QFT means. thanks anyway.

6 hours ago, 2wheeltodd said:

Is something like this what you're looking to do?

Thanks for the pic. Not quite though. I wanted the gable to run the other way. thanks though.

Thanks Glenn. That does look pretty good. I've never been really good at geometry so it looks like I've been beating a dead horse trying to get it do something it can't. No worries. I'll have a go at trying to duplicate the above and see how I go.

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

1 hour ago, glennw said:

Coralie,

 

You floor plan with the arrows is ambiguous as to where you want the gables.

Can you post again with a clearer explanation of where you want the gables and if you have any preferences for the rest of the roof.

You should be able to do a roof like that automatically.

 

I think it would look better with a hip roof with the feature gables at the front - easier maintenance as well.

 

 

Just saw the bottom post Glenn. I don't mind the hip roof and gable look at the front, but is there anyway to turn the back section into a gable?

Cheers

Coralie

22 minutes ago, glennw said:

Coralie,

 

You floor plan with the arrows is ambiguous as to where you want the gables.

Can you post again with a clearer explanation of where you want the gables and if you have any preferences for the rest of the roof.

You should be able to do a roof like that automatically.

Hi Glenn,

thanks for helping out. I've posted the pic with half triangles on the ends for the major gable roofs I want. And some pics that show the effect from inside if that helps. I would like the long gable at the end to be kitchen and living areas. One long gable roof with trusses. The same goes for the master bedroom on the front left. I'm not sure where to end the gable on the right front - if it should continue to go into the other gable or not. I would like a gable over the front porch entry. I'm not sure what to do with the rest of the place. I was trying to do a farmhouse/ craftsman/country type of roof. I tried doing hips in between but it wasn't working and just looks weird. I'll add some pics of what I'm trying to get it to look like.

thanks again.

Hi. I'm having trouble with my roof (as per usual) but I'm having trouble with how to achieve the look I'm going for. I'm attaching the plan and a pic of where I would like gable roofs to go, but not sure how to achieve this and what I should do with the rest of the roof. If someone could guide me please that would be great.

Thanks

Coralie

The Dunk.plan

Thanks for your help with this Chopsaw and Solver. The wall trim looks really good and thanks for letting me use your plan Chopsaw. Now onto the next challenge.

Cheers and many thanks

Coralie

15 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

This is the secret right here : Room Molding Polyline  and it will allow you to substitute the existing Room Molding for the manual one.  Give it a try when you select the room but if you can't work it out you are welcome to use my plan and continue on or copy the two items into your original file.

Hi yes, I used that tool, but I must be doing something wrong. You don't have to fix this problem, but when I tried to make the molding fit between the doors and windows near the fireplace, I can only get one side to show it, even though both are the exact same measurements for windows and doors and the same height above the floor. Weird. But thanks for letting me continue with your plan. I'm trying to get this finished to send off to an architect tomorrow so we can start on building our house ... finally. thanks so much Chopsaw.

Hi Chopsaw. I opened up your plan and tried to replicate it, but it won't do it. I have double checked the measurements in the dbx and they are the same. So it is a bit of a mystery. Do you  mind if I carry on with your plan please? I have your dbx attached and have copied it. Can't figure out though.

Okay, I think I've managed to do it. I can't do it as seemlessly as in the photo example eg. Have the molding perfectly in line with the top and bottom of the windows and balcony, but I think it looks okay. Not perfect. Just okay. However, I can't get the molding on the bottom of the balcony in the little corner. I'll attach a pic. and you can see wood underneath the rail where the staircase is. How does one fix that please? I must have done something wrong there. I've attached my plan as well. ( I accidentally uploaded the wrong plan first time. Sorry)

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

The_CraftsmanRedo1.plan

1 hour ago, Chopsaw said:

You are using X8 now is that correct ?  I can post a test plan if you like.

1 hour ago, solver said:

When you create the Room Molding Polyline, you should get this dialog. Enter the elevation for the top or bottom of the molding, or just use large offsets as Chopsaw shows.

 

Hi Chopsaw and Solver. I'll have a go at both of these methods now and see how I go. I went "Aha!" when I saw them. Hopefully I can do it.

Cheers and thanks.

Hi Chopsaw. When I try to put in a molding it goes to the ceiling. Do you mean drag it down somehow? If I put in an offset, how do I put in elevation? Sorry, not sure about this one at all.

Hi. I've seen a picture where there is a wall trim around the middle of a vaulted room that continues along the loft above. I'm not sure how to achieve this. Does anybody know what it is called as I can't figure out what to look for in Chief's tutorials? I've included a picture. You can see it between the windows in the Great Room and it continues along the edge of the loft. Can anyone tell me how to do this please?

Thanks.

Hi Guys. Thanks for the input. You know? I decided my brain was too fried so I took a break, had some breakfast and a shower and I felt like a new person. I opened up my plan before I got your replies and decided I needed to fix the things you both said and rework it. Thanks for your suggestions. I know I'm on the right track now.

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

Hi Guys. Well I'm stuck on building this roof. I've tried and tried with it but now my brain is completely numb. I want to try and have some Gables because I love Gables. I don't want a hip roof. I prefer the Mountain style roof line. I am trying to make a gable roof over the great room and also over the garage. For the entry I thought of a shed type roof with windows along one wall to let in light. I just don't know what to do with the rest of the top floor where the balcony is and I'm having trouble with the back porch too. I know I haven't put in stairs yet. I'm still figuring out where I want them to go. I'll post some pics of the look I'm trying to achieve, but I am stuck now and nothing I do works. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

The Endeavour.plan

Thanks Brown Tiger. Very helpful article.

No worries!

Hmmm. I got a real weird message. Tried to give you reputation and Chief said I couldn't??? Anyway, I hereby rep you, country.

I think it is wonderful. Thank you so much for taking the time to work this out for me. The spaces are organised properly and the dimensions work for me. I can work on putting in a laundry up top if I need it there - yes I want to stack the washer and dryer. How did you know that? I saw a pic of it on pinterest and fell in love with that idea. I absolutely love the new layout. You are marvellous. <3

Thankyou so much.

Oh Wow! Thank you so much country for that layout. It is just great. Yep what I was trying to achieve but with a lot more useful space that isn't wasted. I love it. Cheers to you and many thanks again.

2 hours ago, country said:

Here is a, hopefully, slightly more useful layout.  

8 hours ago, country said:

I had a quick look at your plan yesterday.  Without knowing what you are trying to accomplish it is hard to comment but presuming you are trying to put in a seperate/future? in-law suite, the garage access should be moved and many walls can be eliminated or opened up to give a much better flow.  Some of the room sizes are excessively large in comparison to their use (ie. Powder Room).  Having an improved use of space can reduce the house footprint, thus decreasing cost, without sacrificing the feeling of spaciousness.

Excess size, without purpose, never feels right once built.  I totally agree with Richard, you will be spending way too much money on a design that could be so much better.

Hi Country. Yes that is what I need to know. Where do you think the garage access could go to give a better flow? I'll look at reducing the Powder Room. Are there any others that could be reduced?

Thanks

Coralie

11 hours ago, Richard_Morrison said:

Your site plan shows several lots, and it's not clear which one is yours. May I suggest you look at www.undercoverarchitect.com? It has LOTS of tips about the process. I'm concerned that you are going to be spending a LOT of money, and you are getting off to a less-than-optimal start here. 

Hi Richard. Sorry, I should have said it was Lot 8. I will check out the site you recommended. I know I have to find ways to save money.

Thanks

Coralie

41 minutes ago, BrownTiger said:

>I'm attaching my floorplan to view and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how I could do it better please

 

Not sure, but are you asking about, how you can improve technical chief architect skills, or overall floorplan, documenting, sections??

I saw you posting 3 different floorplans, all ICF 

 

>Can you explain what you mean by bowling alleys 

Long, dark, narrow hallways are wasted space. A lot of designers avoid them.

 

 

>It is going to be built on a sloping block. North East aspect for Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. Sub tropical climate with cool winters due to a little elevation. Winds are mostly from the East, North East and South East.

 

Nice, but what would really help, if you open CA library and search for "North" and place that symbol in your plan.....  

 

Hi Brown Tiger. Thanks for the explanation of Bowling Alleys. I don't really know how to fix them. I have a long rectangular building envelope: 15m x 30m. I'm trying not build a rectangular box, but avoiding hallways is difficult. I want a lot of light in the main rooms and windows as we really need them for air circulation in Summer. I was thinking of putting in skylights over the hallways to bring in light. I'm building out of ICF if I can, because of its thermal qualities. Our power bills in Australia are some of the highest in the world and they are going up all the time. They are crippling our economy and households. I'm trying to keep heating and cooling down as much as possible.ICF is relatively new down here as the tradition is to build a brick and tile home more often than not. I have a couple of different plans because I am going to submit them to our builder and see which one he thinks is best for the land and cheapest for us to build. I'm constantly refining them as a result and trying to make them better design wise. That's why I was asking about the floorplan for this one - just suggestions on design that would make it more functional and more appealing. I can have a lovely long house with lovely views, so there will be lots of windows. I"m definitely open to suggestions for better design. anyway, I have put in the North symbol and a map of the area with North on it too. North East is ideal for Australian conditions. So happy I'm not facing the Western Sun in our climate.

Cheers and thanks

Coralie

Eagles View.plan

1 hour ago, Richard_Morrison said:

While there may be a number of suggestions for how to get rid of the bowling alleys that you've got now, this is really the wrong way to start designing a house. You should start with the site. There is no indication of North, grade levels, views, prevailing winds, site access, nor any indication of how the basement rooms are going to get light, air, and exit paths. This all affects how the main living spaces should be arranged. Oh, and the building code might be a factor. We don't even know which building code is controlling.

Hi Richard. Thanks for the advice. It is going to be built on a sloping block. North East aspect for Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. Sub tropical climate with cool winters due to a little elevation. Winds are mostly from the East, North East and South East. I am attaching a dwg that I have of the site, but I don't really know how to put it in the plan yet. This is a site that I go to that explains design guidelines in layman's terms. http://www.build.com.au/ I guess these are more official: https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/B/BuildgR06.pdf.

I haven't got as far as the basement yet. Can you explain what you mean by bowling alleys please and how to improve them?

Thanks

Coralie

Lot 8.dwg