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Quick update to this, it's still obviously horrible, but both of my draftsman (one on Mac and one on Windows 11) both have complaining about the exact same issues. I did experience it using the windows 11 user's computer today. So it absolutely seems to be an issue entirely within Chief...it's just so darn frustrating.

Yep, the slowness has been very annoying. Frequently (how frequent varies, sometimes it's every 20 seconds and sometimes every few minutes) X14 will just freeze for a few seconds and then continue. It doesn't matter which view I'm in, 3d views and plan views are all the same. It was doing it in beta so once it went public I made all new templates from the X14 default templates to try to rule that out. Didn't help at all. It happens with a fresh plan, even off of the default templates, so the amount of items in the plan aren't involved. Everything's up to date, computer is very powerful, but it just doesn't matter. On top of that it just runs slower across the board. Everything feels a bit more delayed than X12 or X13. I have no idea what the developers did differently but my goodness I wish they hadn't done it. Here's a quick video showing one of the pauses that happens often.

It's suddenly working after closing and opening the plan again LOL. For sure, I've been doing a handful lately. I've got another few in my queue. Yeah it was set at 200, also just used a few different light sets to try to get it to kick on. It all worked after restarting the darn .plan file. Side note - do you know if we can have light sources on multiple floors enabled simultaneously? Seems that chief enables the lighting for the floor that you are on but I didn't find a setting to adjust that.

Classic "Did you try turning it off and back on again" situation. Once I reopened the file it's cooperating. Odd. That screenshot that I linked had the camera view on the first floor, which is why the upper light didn't turn on but even going to the second floor wasn't working. Not as important but a related question, is there a way to turn on the lighting in that upper floor at the same time as the lower? Other than setting the loft fan to the first floor and raising it up?

This is a bit odd, I can't figure out why the lighting will not turn on for this ceiling fan in the loft. The first floor is working as intended but I can't seem to turn on any lighting fixtures placed in the second floor/loft. The light source is enabled for that fixture, same as everything on the first floor, but the only thing that happens when switching the light on or off is the bulb turning from white to black without casting light. What could I be missing? Thank you! Plan file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r76Lg_qzHYBz4K2BbrujhxzgRkZWDWhw/view?usp=sharing

It's definitely an odd issue. I just tried turning off all terrain features, perimeter, etc. that make the elevation much wider on another plan that has the same issue but it still has the color shifted to the side and a bit blurry. Even after sending a new elevation it's still bad. I can't figure it out.

Occasionally when sending an elevation view to a layout using plot lines and color fill the colored portion becomes blurry and offset. I have seen a few other complaints on the forum regarding this issue but with no concrete solution. I did see recommendations related to items in the distance that may make the view very large but I don't have that issue here. I've tried new elevation views but with the same issue. It shows on the layout view in Chief and the PDF it spits out. I have this happen every couple of projects that I work on, it's not every project but it's a bit annoying. I usually just forego color but I do want color on this tiny ramada project that I'm doing. Has anyone found a fix for this? I'll attach the plan (drive link) that I'm referencing. I've sent the elevation to new layouts and the issue persists. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YYNsWuGkt9oSVmAMzVCqm1kYi1Du0ydp/view?usp=sharing

The foundation will not adjust manually, oddly enough. At least no way that I've discovered. Room divider would need to be in the main floor and it'll work fine. I'll have to keep doing that, I just prefer to not have the divider there as it tends to make my plan behave unexpectedly.

Happy Friday everyone, I swear I had figured this out on a prior project but I can't find which one it was. I've got an addition that I am currently working on. The existing space is floor framed with a basement below but we are enclosing a portion of the patio and extending out the kitchen. The new portion is slab on grade. I can't seem to get this single room to have part of the foundation as the existing framed floor and the new to be slab on grade! The addition's foundation has the floor height below the framed floor thickness, which I do understand seeing that the floor thickness is set for the room. But is there a way to make this work other than using a room divider above that foundation split? Thank you! File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PkD-mcRCqJ01LCDqnuLiGvt0BQ3baLni/view?usp=sharing

Downgrade to Windows 10, I did right after my comment prior to yours and it hasn’t crashed since.

Thank you for this updated. It has indeed been frustrating. I upgraded to 11 a few weeks ago and each day it's been crashing a few times while working, I now have the habit of manually hitting save every minute. I've completely wiped out all graphics drivers and clean installed them, turned off TDR after bumping up the delay, disabled nahimic and blackisted chief, just looks like it's out of my hands. Happens regardless of the plan I happen to be working on at the time. 2022-01-04 14-58-20_Trim.mp4 Please continue to update us! I don't see why this would help, but I grabbed a quick recording of it crashing. EDIT: 4 crashes within the past 3 hours.

To update this, I was too hasty saying that all plans are this bad. I'm clearly mixing my pre and post update experience. This plan set is pretty awful so I am assuming that I have goofed something up to cause the lag though I'm not sure why it is only occurring in those views. I'll attach it here in case anyone cares to see if they are experiencing the same issue on their system. This build has been through too many changes and updates so it wouldn't be surprising if there's something obvious that I'm overlooking. Zipped due to size. Skousen Orchard Ranch REV4.zip

Unfortunately yes, I actually kicked it back to a standard render before switching to the elevation view in that recording.

Afternoon everyone, As the title suggests, elevation and cross section views really struggle as of a month or so ago. All commands in the window, even mouse movements, are very choppy and it makes any sort of precision challenging. The standard top down plan view or any sort of 3d view (including PBR/RTRT) work beautifully, smooth and very little noticeable hanging under the most stress. It does not matter which .plan is used so I won't bother attaching one, it happens even in a new .plan. This issue was directly addressed in the latest update's patch notes so I hoped that the update would have fixed the issue. But after updating X13 and all of my graphics drivers it is still choppy. I did a fresh install of X13 as well but it was no help. I emailed chief support but I had my SSA lapse so I will be waiting for their response. Until then has anyone been experiencing this or found a fix? Here's a recording of it: https://www.facebook.com/100000468050936/videos/610596253654161/ Thanks in advance for the guidance. Ethan

Thanks Rabbitt, I'll look into that and cross my fingers. Not a fun issue to fight with.

Yessir, as soon as I had received the prompt. And it seems to have a mind of it's own now. It hasn't crashed in 20 minutes or so, just being slower than the norm. I dialed back some of my normal OC settings which could have been causing issues given the size of this plan.

Afternoon Chief-ers, A few weeks ago I had X13 crashing a minute or so after opening any 3d view. I updated my GFX drivers and it eliminated the issue...until now. It's back and happens very quickly after doing any RTRT. GFX drivers and chief are both up to date, GFX drivers had a fresh install as well. I haven't found any fixes for this other than what had fixed it last time. Any advice would be appreciated, than you! I'd attach the plan set to reference but I imagine it's not a plan specific issue and the file size is too large to attach. I can attach a drive link if necessary.

Ah there it is, thank you Mick!

I'm assuming that you are referring to floor vs full overview? Ah, it's due to drawing roof planes in the attic view. That makes sense. I'm used to using the floor overview with the roof plans drawn on the first/2nd floor. Allows me to easily cut each level off the build to look inside. Guess I don't have that option here other than the cross section slider unless I can get the dormers to show properly on the 1st or 2nd floor.

Evening everyone. I definitely wish that dormers happened to be simpler (or rather would hold my hand more) here within Chief (x12) as I seem to fight with it frequently. The latest issue is really odd to me. I was able to make the dormer show proper by moving them to the attic floor so that they would stop failing due to hitting attic walls (that even if deleted still keep the dormers from showing) but for some reason the roof will not show in the perspective floor overview. Oddly, they show on the plan, elevation views, and on the full camera view. Obviously this is not a huge issue but it's a bit annoying as I'm flying through and checking the model. So I have 2 questions. First, any idea why they would not show on just that 3d view? They layer is on but hopefully it's a simple oversight on my part. Second question is when I manually delete attic walls on the 2nd floor in this plan, why do they persist as invisible walls? If I delete the invisible wall they just reappear as attic walls again. As always, thank you everyone for your time! Orchard Ranch REV3.plan

Until now I have been using doorways to accomplish showing posts within Chief. However, I would like to be able to use railings instead, as clients frequently would like to have a railing shown in the plan and it can be tricky to manually move a railing into place. But when I use a railing as opposed to a doorway, the foundation plan is negatively impacted. Here is the doorway technique that I have been using (which will show what I am looking to accomplish in my plans. The only polyline I add in these instances are for the larger 24x24 footing represented by the square dotted line). This is what I currently have showing as I use a railing (I will also attach the sloppy plan): Hoping I explained myself clearly! Thank you in advance for the help. Burnham Heber Addition PROPOSED Idea 1.plan

Ahhh you got me

Ah of course. Thank you for your help and have a wonderful end to your week, Eric.

Hm, yes it is oddly hit or miss when Chief decides to place the wall properly for me. It looks to work if I extend the 12" from a perpendicular adjacent wall. A followup to that - is there a way to select the width of the wall I am drawing vs adjusting the thickness after I have placed it? Hopefully that is clear. Thanks again.

Woops, I had the plan open on another screen. Closed it, here it is: Demo Plan.plan