DzinEye

For what it's worth, it seems to usually happen to me when the two roof planes are close, as in your example.  If you have auto everything on, see what happens if you either lower the lower roof or raise the upper roof a foot or two.  Does it automatically build?

Happens to me too.  I don't think there's a simple answer.  I'm sure there's many different things that might effect it being built automatically. 
Did you auto-build your roof or build it manually?
You have auto-build attic walls checked?
BTW... sorry I obviously missed the intent of your original post...

Go to your attic level, you'll see you have a short couple feet long attic wall (You can just see it there in the pic you posted on the very right side).  While there, just drag the left side of that wall toward the left.

18 hours ago, Kiwideziner said:

use window levels to find out more use F1 key.

Thanks for mentioning this Graeme,
Even though it's not the solution Alan was seeking, I have often had issues with transom windows... this may help.  Definitely going to play around with it.

Those kinds of things can be a PITA to get rid of sometimes...for me.  Perhaps someone has a better solution...  I usually just erase from the layout, but it appears you have 3 separate attic walls, and those are showing the joints.  If you're done modeling the roof, you could try turning off "auto-rebuild attic walls" and then delete the two right pieces of attic wall and stretch the far left piece all the way to the right.

44 minutes ago, solver said:

No setting, but you could maybe use a pony wall and display the bottom part in plan.

That's a good idea.  Will need to remember that.

15 hours ago, Ridge_Runner said:

Never understood CA's thinking on that one. Easier to program I guess.

16 hours ago, robdyck said:

You know how many times I got asked why the doors were 26" x 68"?? Not making that up!!

14 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

I’ve never been a huge fan of

the 2668 nomenclature either, and I still find it confusing even when I know it’s happening

That's been the standard way of calling out sizes since I learned it back in the 80's... is there a different common standard nowadays?

8 hours ago, Hammer7 said:

Thank you Rob, my front steep pitches are a false overhang to mimic the appearance of a gambrel.  I can make them touch but they don't want to join and the rake's are not a bisected angle.

Did you use the 'Join Roof Planes' tool ?  Also looks like left and right lower roof pitches are not the same

open the dbx for that wall you just made, under 'general' set the wall to be an attic wall and under 'roof' check the box for it to be cut by roof below.
Looks like you need to drag that front (right side of gable) roof back to touch the wall too though... and it appears that new wall is not actually in line with the 2nd floor wall?.. check to be sure it is.

14 minutes ago, Dermot said:

If all you want to do is have your railing post offset from the main wall, there are controls to do this in X12.  You can also switch between having a full post, half post, or none.

6 minutes ago, solver said:

Easy to offset the post, no way to offset the top rail.

Thanks Dermot, Yes, I've used that feature a few times now (whether a post or 1/2 post shows at the wall)... but does that prevent the wall from seeing the railing as intersecting?  Eric's response makes me think not, but perhaps I'm wrong.  I'm working in a project I have to keep in X11 for this particular example.
 

Perfect, thanks guys.

I guess no magic switch to turn off wall snapping on a case by case basis though.

When walls get within a set distance (Chief bases this distance on wall thickness) from one another, they want to snap together, which is usually great, but not always.  Is there a way to prevent it?
Would like to know the answer in general, but especially asking for a condition where a rail comes up perpendicular to the wall, but I don't want the joint between the two parallel/co-linear walls snapping to the intersection with the perpendicular rail.

1 hour ago, Kbird1 said:

And yes the Plate height would work too , only chief is NOT placing the plate at the correct height currently either.....

Yep, I saw that in your section.  That should be fixed.  

36 minutes ago, Ridge_Runner said:

I just change them to invisible and turn that layer off. Works well and no need to fight the program - you will lose more times than you will win.

Yep true enough... but I'll probably create another layer just for those, because I usually have other invisible walls that I want to keep in their semi-visible state.

2 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

Not entirely true.  If you delete an attic wall while Auto Rebuild Attic Walls is toggled on, the wall is automatically changed to an invisible wall and put onto the "Walls, Invisible" layer.  Delete it again and it changes back to a normal attic wall and put back onto the "Walls, Attic" layer.  

Yep...seen it happen to me a hundred times, and always wish it would just delete on the 2nd erase rather than messing with auto-rebuild

Also need to uncheck 'Automatic' 

39 minutes ago, Dermot said:

You can copy any folder in the core or manufacturer libraries that you want by right-clicking on it in the library browser.  You can then paste it into your user library as a full copy of the original items or as shortcuts to the original items.

 

You can also add your own search attributes to any library object in any folder.

 

 

Thank you Dermot!  
Any feedback on keeping these items updated for new Chief versions, especially if I modify their names?

5 minutes ago, Renerabbitt said:

I personally use my Library 90% of the time I am designing or drafting. I periodically update symbols in my library from Chief's updated items.I would say that I am well outside of the norm in this regard. I tend to improve Chiefs symbols substantially, and catered to my workflow. So even if Chief updates its symbols they are still of lesser value to me than my own modified version. 

This too (90% use of own library) is essentially my goal in finally setting up a proper library.  I'm so tired of skimming through hundreds of Chief items I will probably never use to find what I want...though I realize setting up filters is what I need to do to better use Chiefs library, I would like to make some changes to many of the things (like gloss and direction of flooring for instance), so I'm intent on getting this library right.
Alas, sounds like there's no magic bullet to keeping things updated when Chief updates library items.

Out of curiosity if you don't mind, what percentage of your customized library items will not work when a new version of Chief comes out?
 

Really appreciate your info! 

19 hours ago, Renerabbitt said:

Add search attributes as you go. I also personally like to name in ALL CAPS to distinguish my symbols. I make duplicate symbols and store in multiple places that would be common to my workflow i.e. wet location LED in BATHROOM folder and LIGHTING folder. I add the last date the symbol was updated to comments in the symbol. Helps me keep up with symbols that contain macros or custom fields.

Thank you Rene.  Good info!
BTW...I added the following detail to my original question which if you have any insight on, would appreciate your feedback..>
"One thing I dislike about Chiefs library items is the naming scheme... e.g.; Instead of 'Green chair', White chair' etc.,, I prefer 'Chair_Green.  Am I going to have problems if I depart from Chiefs naming scheme?  Suggestions for what to do if I copy a Chief item and rename it in my library for keeping track and updating that item when Chief updates? "
E.g.: I would like to take my favorite items whole cloth from Chief and add them to my user library for easier access.

21 hours ago, Kbird1 said:

as with the other person who asked me recently , normally you just want to know the distance in from the gable wall the pitch change starts at the ridge Level , eg in their case they were try to get chief to start the pitch down 11ft from the gable wall. It's also one of the easier ways to do it Onsite , measure in from gable wall, ( baseline) lop off the ridge you previously ran long, and offer up the precut Common Rafter

This kind of surprises me.  I wouldn't think this is how you'd build a full hip?... so why a partial?  I understand though, you're looking at Chief from the perspective of building it, but first it has to be designed, and from the design point of view, I'm looking at it from how wide would I want that section of hip to be in relation to the overall width of roof and roof pitch.  Once the look is established I can call out on the plans the plate height and width for that section of roof... wouldn't that be just what you need to frame it?

23 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

Try to keep a similar format as the Core Catalogs so that as things are customized and accumulated you will know where to find them since we can't change the core catalog.

Thank you.  If you know, is there a way to copy the folder format without having to create it from scratch?

I've been hacking along forever just throwing things into the User Library folder... and finally want to start a proper User library.
Before I start, wondering if anyone has any advice/suggestions that would benefit me before I get going with it.

One thing I dislike about Chiefs library items is the naming scheme... e.g.; Instead of 'Green chair', White chair' etc.,, I prefer 'Chair_Green.  Am I going to have problems if I depart from Chiefs naming scheme?  Suggestions for what to do if I copy a Chief item and rename it in my library for keeping track and updating that item when Chief updates?  
E.g.: I would like to take my favorite items whole cloth from Chief and add them to my user library for easier access.

1 hour ago, Kbird1 said:

It's Never the Architect's Fault , most of you put that right on every single page off the Plan Set  ..... just joking , I didn't mean it quite like you took it I think, I've just seen a lot of PDF Plan-sets lately that are very poorly dimensioned, apparently AutoCAD mustn't have an Auto Exterior Dimension Tool bad  .

Of course I knew you were just having a dig, but you're right...architects do put a lot of that kind of language on the drawings... I definitely have both you posted on all my drawings!   

3 hours ago, Kbird1 said:

And back on Topic ( ...sorry Dave),  his way in the last few minutes of the Video, may actually be easier if your Architect was kind enough to give you the Fascia Height.

Oh bloody hell... it always circles back to being the architects fault   

17 minutes ago, solver said:

2 walls in the same location.

Seems to work without it?