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Thanks again Bill , I have the Plan's now and will check them out , much appreciated ,as even with my years of using CA Software and lurking on the Forums, I have not seen this technique before and would never have thought of it. So I am happy that guys like you and Joe C. etc are willing to share your hard earned knowledge with us all.

M.

Mick

"We the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little, for so long, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing" just kidding, here is the plan,

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxgCyu8dBKtcSnhFZ3FsSEc3ek0/edit?usp=docslist_api

Here is the video

Hint:- don't miss to display the z , when viewing the plan.

Thanks graham, did I state the already said? Your English is a bit tough for me to understand.

It is my 99th language, most people here knows that and takes care.

Any way thanks.

Here is my take on the issue, an other example for any one interested, I tried to create the curve with smooth transition at the point it meets the straight one.

https://youtu.be/RTn1xDLQ1mg

My take is just create broken ramp to be the virtual control platform around the deck and around stairs, so that the rails follow the ramp, the unseen capability of chief is the most effective ones as I always state.

Please, post at least some images of what exactly you would like to see added. Who knows? Some one may do it what you need. chief is unpredictable as you know.

Well, I can not insist there is no bug. chief's behaviour is volatile in most of it's operation, while it is again what makes up its beauty. A lot of ways to do, but the broken ramp is the most stable way as we have discussed in an earlier thread.

It would be nice if the room divider worked for Bill's method but I can't get it to work.  Thanks for the tip Bill.

 

Edit: Just hide the invisible walls by making their line color white or no color, or if possible, just turn the layer off.  This takes care of any undesirable plan view issues regarding using invisible walls.

Curt, it works also for the room divider! Simply the same way as I explained above.

Thanks curt for thinking of more perfect way to do it. Here goes chieeef!

Be very mindful using breaks and invisible walls to locate structural posts. There is a known bug with this which I have reported. It will look right one minute and then move or edit a connected wall and/or railing and suddenly the columns move, double up, and do any number of weird things. I am back to placing them manually as Perry suggested. Am hoping this gets fixed soon.

Bryce, have you followed the post #10 explanation?

I don't think those weird things occur and I am not directly using a break but crossing invisible wall,

This is my thought on bill's yet unanswered homework , may be he will explain a different and easier way.

Any way thanks bill for sharing this good thing.

Here is a video if any one needs more clarification.

Perry, draw three parallel invisible railing walls at rondom interval, then draw a normal railing that crosses the former three. 4 segments of railings are resulted, but the most important point here I think is you can drag the invisible wall to both +x and -x so that the corresponding newel moves with it, and nothing disturbs like when you break the wall and not change the property of one in the structure tab, then it joins back after clicking that wall during work. Even if you change the property of one of the walls you need two steps to move the break to where you want. Bill's way is soooooo easy that you simply drag the invisible wall to position newels.

Hope I did not state the obvious bill, before testing it I thought it was simple but not just an easy task to figure out quickly.

Thank you very much bill

Bill that is very nice, I didn't test it because PC is a bit far, but hope the magic is the point that the invisible wall intersects the railing automatically gives a newel at that point!

Really nice trick. I think I won the gold.

Manually enterning points to plan seems to me a tedeous job, not sure but most likely your application can let you get your data in .xls format. if that can happen, it is easy to copy selecting the columns containing the #,x,y,z, description, then copy paste it in notepad and then simply import the text doc by choosing the tab dillimated option in the import terrain data wizard.

That is what I always do by exporting data from "global mapper" to vector format and easily create my terrain in chief by importing the terrain of a very large area for some works.

Ken, thanks and glad it helped you.

"Movavi" nice screen capture software. Try the demo to see it.

Thanks lary and bill for the complements.

Here is my take too.

Not offending, just additional example to any one interested.

https://youtu.be/Mbonpxn_ULs

Thanks Jon.

one interesting property of this corner window is, when you tick the "system to supply a rectangular casing" in the symbol spc dbx you see the casing on both windows automatically. But the annoying thing is that I don't know why chief assigns the glass material to the casing and seems it can't be assigned casing material independently.

The issue of framing, I think has no problem in accordance to chief's internal assumsions.it is the engineers task as for detail calks.in our area we use concrete structural framing and no problem to construct it. But since I am the structural engineer too, I understand timber structures and not difficult as such to apply struts and ties to support it. I don't know exactly but this issue was raised by a similar thread earlier.

This is just to remind the areas that need improvements in relation to this topic.

Thanks

Thanks Micky glad if that worked.

I created it from a combined 3d molding p lines.

I am working on creating more generalized symbol that every one will use it easily.

I bet this is the easiest way with it! once you create the symbol, it is simply a window and not a big deal.

I think the symbol creation and placement needs advanced techniques.

I think people got confused on the concept, simply hope that helps.

Attached the link of the plan that contains the window.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxgCyu8dBKtcanZpYTMzWUxtdWs/edit?usp=docslist_api

Window spec dbx "lites" try to manipulate the the number and shape of lites there.

You may also need diamond grid window! You will find it there too.

I gave it a try to create a corner window symbol.

Thought it could be an alternative way.

Attached the pictures

Actually, a lot of ways may work, my method works not only for your specific case but more generaliatic.

No molding,posts added manually. Simply the above steps gives such result.

I would use ramps as a virtual bed for raising and lowering railing bottom heights. Try this simple steps.

1. Draw a ramp some were outside your drawing area, set it open under side, thickness 0 and its top and bottom height set to a figure equals the desired bottom height of your railing.

2. HERE IS THE STEP WHERE THE BIG TRICK LIES. YOU HAVE ALREADY CREATED A THIN(zero depth and small width) HORIZONTAL(0 SLOPE) SINGLE SEGMENT RAMP WHICH IS IN ANOTHER WORDS THE VIRTUAL BED OF RAILING HEIGHT CONTROL.

3. Select the ramp and make curve, then convert it in to a number of segments equals to the number of sides of your deck.

4. At this step you have to see how much flexible it is to edit by dragging each vertex to the nodes of your deck edges. So you have a bed running along your deck sides that can be raised, lowered or offsetted from the sides as you need. You can use the railings of the ramp it self in your case, or make railings that "follow stairs" by

Making the ramp "no rails left and right"

This way you can make fancy railings of different kind.

Wait , wait... one more idea . ... Your case can be solved by simply assuming the waste depth of the ramp as the lower wall and its railing as the upper baluster rails as I can see in the picture you posted by making the deck walls invisible.

Thanks David. I've used the skylight tool, but a 6' x 15' skylight on the flat doesn't look so good in 3D. Might fall through with a snow load like we have had this year! I've found a symbol to place over it that gives a little pitched glass structure over it. Not perfect, but will do for now.

 

 

 

Skylight1.jpg

You can also create this kind of skylight symbols using chief's roof and skylight.

Not a difficult task.

Well, if the two roof planes have similar pitch, simply using cad lines extend the two base lines and find the point of intersection. Then using that intersection point draw an arc that connects the two baselines, snapping the mid point of that arc draw a line to connects it with the center point of the arc. It is that line is where the two roof planes will join.

It is better to use cad poly lines since it allows you to select any irregular shaped selection. For example when you need to mirror L shaped part of a building that has common area at the middle that shouldn't be coppied , simply draw L shaped poly line around it, select the poly line, while selection is active go to edit menu and select edit area all floors then mirror it as usual. This way is more broader way to do it.