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Thanks Michael. didn't work though.

The PB, ALDO & Library were on a different monitor originally. They're nowhere to be found now.

 I think they are activated when I click on the tool (the main Chief screen goes "gray"), but it is not visible on any of my monitors.

They are off-screen somewhere.

Anybody know of a way to restore default location of these?

I replaced an old monitor last night; took some "finagling" to get back to my preferred display. Still not quite right.

In Chief, I cannot find the Library, Project Browser or the ALDO. Nothing I've tried will bring those back on screen.

try turning off the "Roofs, Openings" layer; or moving roof plane up to the attic. Just a guess.

I believe you can snap to the reference set.

I draw lines over referenced walls, main layer all the time.  Enable your snaps/On Object.

Reference sets are wonderful & can have many creative uses & all that, but a layer that displayed on all floors & also in CAD Details would be very handy. Even if the layer was only editable in one place. 

No Perry, that was well before I came on board. I purchased Chief (floppy discs) & then the version w/ roofs came out shortly after.

'96 or so.

Learned the basics from Dan Bauman's videotapes, which I still have somewhere.

Glenn, DJP, Dan B & a few others were already on board by then.

I'm certain the bad polylines were the holes in roof. You probably told Chief not to show that dbx anymore. A hole in roof polyline has to be entirely contained by the roof plane.

Going on  20yrs full-time w/ the program has some perks.

Opening plan, I got 2 dbx's for "bad polylines". I got rid of hole in roof & edited the roof planes. Selected all walls & set top & bot to default. Moved roof lines to wall surfaces.The walls that were spec'd to have roof cut wall at bottom, the roof plane has to be on the inside edge of the wall, but the roof line needs to jog back to the outside surface when a colinear wall is spec'd not to have the roof cut.... (Explode an auto dormer & examine how all the parts of a dormer are defined (walls) & how the hole in roof is shaped.) That cleaned up the ceilings at the cheek walls. I got a centerline & snapped all the roof edges to that & visually confirmed that they all had the same ridge hgt. One of roof lines would not jog back to the outside where I knew it needed to be, so I had to enable "No special snapping" in the roof spec dbx in order to put the jog where I wanted it. Used the "edit wall layer intersection" tool to clean up knee wall corners. A couple walls would not finish properly, so had to drag top/bot in place. Select all walls & restore default top/bot to see what 2 they were. I got ride of the gaps in the cl'g over the stairs by assigning a cl'g surface to the roof plane.

The wall over the garage door was actually 3 walls.

Rambling, sorry.

How does this look?

Morrison (Jim).zip

Never noticed that little handle before. 

Funny..........kinda. 

Am I the last to notice that we can rotate labels now?

Thanks Scott. I wonder what the logic is behind that?

Monolithic slab on grade:

Why does the "wall" appear some places & not others?

I don't want to see it.

Two objects we were abusing this morning.

3D Symbol & Toilet.zip

Are you talkin' 'bout windows or doors?

w/ windows, the frame is included in the unit size.

w/ doors, the frame is not included in the unit size.

Other than that, you'll need to post the plan or some screen captures at the very least.

The Room Divider wall type does NOT need to be invisible. In fact, it's not set to "Invisible" in my template. It has a zero thickness &  "Air Gap/ No material" material definition so that the wall is completely transparent, even in vector views. I want it on "Walls, Normal" layer as a solid line in plan. If I don't want that line in plan, then I make it invisible & it automatically moves to the "Walls, Invisible" layer. Also, by NOT making it invisible, it never changes wall types on you when you're not looking. You will have to change the wall type of attic wall abv though- if necessary.

I think it was more confusing before. "Invisible" is NOT a wall type. It's a wall PROPERTY. Any wall type can be invisible, & often is. In prior versions, it did matter what wall type was used & made invisible in certain situations. 

MickeyToo,

If the object you are painting/eyedropper to a new layer has "Default" checked everywhere (style, wgt, color,), than the line will have the default properties of the new layer. If that object does NOT have "default" checked everywhere (IOW, the object is simply on a particular layer but does not possess the layer display properties), then only the new layer gets assigned. Check it out.

MickeyToo is the perfect example of a typical Chief-user's mindset. Keeping stuff at default values is a big priority. When display properties need changing, it is much easier to do that by layer than finding all the individual objects.........in Chief.

I think y'all will get what you want eventually, 'cuz it will be a natural by-product of doing away w/ clickety-clickety-click.

As I'm reading this, I'm wondering when I ever need to draw a line (or anything) that I don't want to have the default values assigned to that layer.  I rarely have a need to do that. I have layers set up for everything I could need. So the examples you ACAD guys are giving us just don't seem to be that big of a deal. All we do is change the current CAD layer & off we go. I guess I would need that ability some in a CAD Detail, but, even then, usually I'm dealing w/ linework that is a result of View2CAD- vast majority of the linework is already present & I just need to edit what's there.

&, we can draw a new wall off an existing wall that has the same properties as the wall drawn from, regardless of what the wall defaults are.  (who knows, maybe we'll be able to do that w/ CAD lines some time down the road.)

I think we're all in agreement that there are way too many clicks in/out of dbx's to do anything so an always open dbx w/ all the editable values available for the currently selected object would be great.

& an ACAD "Match Properties" tool would be awesome too.

You can change what plan(s) is/are referenced by the layout in tools/layout/referenced plan files. All layout views will now reference the plan you have just spec'd. You can also change what plan is referenced by individual layout views by right-clicking the border & then clicking on the double links on the Edit toolbar.

Here's what my pg0 w/ all layers displayed looks like. Set up layers, layer sets & anno sets for each pg size. I also have a couple layers that display in all layer sets. Then it's just a case of changing layer sets as well as your printer/page setup for each paper size.

It has been suggested previously that the printer/pg setup could be linked to the layer set. That would save that extra step.

You can also use "Minimum Separation" in the window defaults to set your distance between windows, center the 1st window & then copy/paste, etc.

w/ Minimum Separation set, you can just paste the copy anywhere along the wall & then "slam" it into the adjacent window. Copy/Paste/Reflect about that center window can be used also. Once that middle window is centered, you should get equal distance to the corners as long as the separation is the same between all the windows.

I like doing it this way: I don't have to mess around w/ the multiple copy distance &/or transform/replicate dbxs.

Several ways to get it done. They all work.

Save the camera.

Does "Edit" or "Delete" become available when you move your cursor over your post? Those are greyed out for me until I move the cursor over my post.

Otherwise, I dunno. maybe it's the link.

are you logged in as "you"?

Works here.

You can delete or edit  your own posts anytime, anywhere. If you are the original poster, you can delete the entire thread by deleting your 1st post.

Perry,

I didn't invent it; never intimated that at all. The whole idea/concept was around long before I ever started worrying about such things. & the practice has never went away.  A client of mine that has been w/ me since around 2000 still uses it to this day. It works for him; 4-5 homes/yr & all very similar. When I get his plan, I import my layer & anno sets (if necessary) & he's good to go. 

Scott gave us the acronym "SAM".  & we see "SAM" a lot because Scott is a prolific poster.

On the other hand, MRLS (Multiple Reference Layer Sets) is all Scott's- IMO. He took the new feature of reference layer sets to a higher level & showed us all how they can be used in ways that were not always obvious & really quite ingenious at times.

Whatever method you use to standardize CD creation, I try to have it all pre-drawn, pre-sent to layout, pre "done" as much as possible. . I think it is quicker/easier to delete unnecessary stuff from the layout than to create it from scratch. Particularly if I think  something newly added will be used again.

Scott is the inventor of the save as method (SAM)

I beg to differ w/ that statement. I used it for a while back around the turn of the century.  There were several of us "old-timers" that used that system for a while before going to a fully developed template/profile;  a while before Scott came on board.

Anyway, I don't annotate a drawing that is sent to layout on the layout page. I do that in the actual view. I put large blocks of "general' text right on the layout page or add directly to the page from the library. It comes down to when you move the view around on the page or to a different page, what do you want to go with it?