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Thank you. A little bit of each of you answers helped. I turned off "Scale Images" on the schedule. That seems to have fixed it. I also had adjusted the wall section callouts text size in the Note Specification and that was the final fix. Thank you both.

Is there anyway to include callouts from two different drawings views that have different scales, without the callouts populating in the note schedule at different scales/sizes? I'm doing a building section at 1/4" scale and a wall section at 1" scale. The callouts in the note schedule look like this, attached.

I've played with it for a little while and I'm not getting results.

5 hours ago, GeneDavis said:

The 3D Warehouse has excellent content for Charlotte pipe DWV fittings, with points positioned for accurate and quick joining.

 

Gene,

Are you using these symbols within Chief or are you using Sketchup to provide the drainage drawings?

This has always bugged me so I figured I would ask the GODS.

This might just be me, but the Plan View Specification dialogue box, General tab, Save Options, Never Save, seems pretty useless to me.

If I have all my layers set up correctly. I open a plan view, for giggles here lets say I open a roof plan. I want to take some rafter span measurements, so I turn on the layers for all my walls. I take my measurements. NOW, if I have "Never Save" clicked, when I close the view shouldn't the layers NOT CHANGE in the saved plan view......I mean not save, I mean not change from my perfectly set up layers? This option has never worked for me. I really want this one thing to work right.

Sure, I could click "Prompt to Save" which works correctly, and just say no when it prompts me to save. But why doesn't Never Save not work correctly?

Or do the GODS just hate me?

I don't think it was fixed. My blueprints definitely look different. I use standard Arial font and the font just looks different on the page.

Instead of waiting I wanted to move forward. So I ran through all our notes and details and did the old standard....

grab all text

nudge left once

nudge right back to original position

reposition any wandering text that overlaps

It REALLY sucks when you open a client file from 3 years ago.

They are aware, and working on it. But please submit a bug report so it stays a priority on their list.

12 hours ago, glennw said:

At a wild guess, for rich text, it may be worthwhile checking the status of the Cad Style Font Sizing setting to see what happens.

Rich Text Specification>Options>Size

Checked it,

Same settings as X13.

Thanks. Sending in the bug report. just in case.

Has anyone noticed that text is printing slightly larger in X14 than it was in X13? I only use Arial font to print 3/16" and 3/32" main text. I measured my 3/16" printed text and it's printing at 1/4".

I have a bunch of construction details that now have text running out of the viewport. I also have some text has started to wrap in X14 when it didn't in X13.

On the bright side, X14 handles sheets with large amounts of text a lot faster and snappier than X13 did.

Is it just me, or does X14 not cut the ceiling joists correctly at the roof sheathing?

I've replicated it a few times. Works fine on X13.

1 hour ago, Dermot said:

 - if you had reported this issue 3 years ago instead of just posting on the forum, you might not still be having this problem

 

I remember I found a work around back then. I think it was either , start with a fresh blank plan and create a new template for the new release (I might be wrong.), or I also noticed a difference if you resave the file as a new name....that's how I got to layout #90. Lately I've been only updating the same file and overwriting it, but this might also be the source of the problem. I've only RECENTLY started having this issue again. I assumed, probably wrong after Dermot's input, that it was because of an update. It appears more likely it's because I've used the same file for too many updates.

The economy is taking a crap, so this is when I usually update all our borders, estimation item costs, etc. So I'll have some down time soon to do a new fresh X14 template.

But seriously, EVERYONE, thank you.

2 hours ago, HumbleChief said:

Interesting. Did not know there was a field for designer info in preferences.

 

I know. Me too. Learn something new everyday.

8 hours ago, Dermot said:

Please reread my post above.  What you are showing in your video is exactly what I expect it to do. 

 

 

Dermot, 

I narrowed it down. It has something to do with when when you designate the file to be used as a Layout Template file.

7 hours ago, Dermot said:

Please reread my post above.  What you are showing in your video is exactly what I expect it to do. 

 

Look at your preferences. 

 

Dermot, I get that. I understand the Designer portion of the pre-filled text through preferences. I myself have never done it through the Preferences tab. I instead had it prefilled out on the sheet through the designer toolbar, and saved the filed ASIS. I'm guessing Chief is now overwriting the data boxes in the file because the Preferences data boxes were blank. SO I can fix this by doing it your way, which I see is the correct way. This data should never change anyway.

But what about the CLIENT info boxes. Is Chief clearing out those when opening a new template file, because the info is there when I manually open the file, but disappears when Chief opens it as a default file......which it hasn't done in the past. Here's my reasoning, and it's silly, I know. If you don't give employees explicit directions on how to fill stuff out, they do it hap hazard and wrong and then I'm fixing it. Text is done in lower case, they name the file wrong, they put the cell phone by the home phone, etc......stupid clerical mistakes. That's why I have these prefilled so they know exactly where and how I want it done.

I sent this video to Keri at tech, maybe she can figure it out.

7 minutes ago, Chopsaw said:

Also are you using the "Save as Template" options to update your templates ?

 

 

Just now, Kbird1 said:

 

Are you using File>Templates> New Layout from Templates to open it , or Send to Layout or Open Layout > find Layout file? 

perhaps it matters and you have indeed found an issue?

 

M.

No to both. I keep a clean file of both the plan and layout files, with no walls or anything in them. I resave them with a new client name whenever I start a new project. I update the settings as I go, resaving the layout and plan files with new numbers....LAYOUT 91, LAYOUT 92, PLAN 91, PLAN 92, PLAN 93 ........etc...

Thanks for the input guys. I'll see if it's a problem on the office computer tomorrow morning. I know my assistance mentioned it two days ago on his computer too. I really think after 2 years, it's time for a fresh blank template plan to start over.

1 minute ago, Kbird1 said:

Is your Preferences filled in ? , ( as Dermot mentioned)  as the Layout is using a Macro that pulls from the Preferences File to fill that in....

 

Mick.

Yes. It is. See attached. Opens fine manually, but when it opens as a template it clears all the information and loads up blank.  

I attached the file here.

I'm guessing it's a glitch with copying over a template from X13. I think I'll have to start with blank and create a new template , importing all my data, defaults, and preferences.

LAYOUT - 92.layout

Just now, Dermot said:

Did you ever contact tech support and what did they tell you?

 

As far as I know, the way the program works with regards to the designer information has not changed in many years.  When you start a new plan from a template, the program will copy the designer information from your preferences and replace what ever was already in the template plan.  This was done on purpose so that multiple designers could all share the same default templates.  Each designer can setup their preferences to have the correct info and it will automatically populate the new plan.

 

You can modify this information under Preferences/Appearance/Text using the Define button for the Default Designer Information.  See picture below.

 

I don't believe the names or versions of your template files have anything to do with this.

 

I sent the screen grabs and the files to the bug submit 5 minutes ago.

11 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

These Files are from a Home Designer Program not Chief ...... UNLESS you named them that?

 

Chief's default Plan File is called  Residential Template but you may have also made you own and saved it under another name?

 

In Chief   ......  IF you use the Default location.........        C:\Documents\Chief Architect Premier X13 Data\Templates

 

No. I'm talking about my own template files that I've been using for a few years.

This annoying problem is happening again in X14. All template file border text is clearing from the designer info and client info when loading a template.

Just a dam weird bug for me. The template border and plan work fine if I open them manually, but if they are set as the template to open as default new plan/border in preferences........Preferences-General-New Plans, then it opens with all the design/client info cleared out.

Reporting now.

Did we lose the ability to move object's schedule labels or is this a known bug in 14? I was working on a plan yesterday in x13, creating a restaurant equipment schedule. This morning I opened it in X14 and I can't move schedule labels around. Some are populating in annoying locations.

Or did they create a new setting to move it?

Attached image I can't move E06 label onto the warming oven, to align with the three other units above it.

It's funny how this came up twice today in separate threads.  I should buy a lotto ticket tomorrow.

1 hour ago, Joe_Carrick said:

I include the Layout Table and Revision Table in each of my Page Templates as a part of the Title Block.  That way they are automatically on every sheet of the Layout.  

 

Thanks for that idea Joe. I also have some left over paper space above my revision table that I can insert that. The sheet index has been getting squeezed out by the increased code references like the new climate data Manual J criteria.