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I kinda found a work around, but is there a reason I shouldn't be able to specify a 12" stem wall on one structure and a 24" on the other?  But it's still showing an additional 6" under the wall that I don't want there.  Any thoughts?

Thanks!

2022 Glenco Terrace.zip

17 hours ago, DBCooper said:

I didn't download your plan but I would check to see if you accidently marked the brick as "framing".

 

Yah, not sure how I did that, but that was it.  Thanks!

42 minutes ago, mLongChief said:

 

Looks like the brick layer for that wall has been set to be a framing layer. Open up that particular wall for specification and check its wall type. The Brick-4 wall type its using has the brick layer marked to be framing. Unchecking the Framing checkbox for that layer should resolve that issue.

 

 

 

I'm assuming the issue with the roof framing is that ridge board sticking through the bottom of the roof plane? Seeing as you're using manual roof planes, you could reduce the size of the ridge's depth in the lower roof planes so they'll fit within the roof cavity. It's probably sticking out since this lower roof plane is mostly in the overhang portion, so it's not properly trimming the ridge. It does look like a bug, so I'd report that to our technical support team.

 

Nah,  was talking about adding the sub-fascia in between the rafters for the different pitches, but thanks!

Just at a loss here.  I can go through and add each of the headers / beams as I need to, just a pain.  It has something to do with the wall type as when I changed the wall with the 2 car garage to a 6" wall, it doesn't do it.

It's not doing the roof framing right, either.  But that's just a Chief thing (I'm guessing).

And it disappeared the brick on the model for whatever reason.

IDK.

Sawmill DR Framing.zip Sawmill DR Framing.zip

On 1/28/2024 at 12:17 AM, SHCanada2 said:

I demonstrated this last year in a post. CA will, without telling you, change the material on an exterior wall under certain conditions. It occured for me when there was an exterior indent in a wall (like 2' in by 3' wide), and the if you go to changes this indent to something else, it flips the material on one of the walls

 

 

It was repeatable. And I logged it

@glennw suggested

"But if Chief is reversing your walls, you may want to look at the Auto Reverse Wall Layers setting."

 

From what I can tell that setting does not always work correctly. It may be worth a try to turn it off.

 

 

OK, so that's a potential solution to the nonsense.  Not an excuse or logical reason for it happening.

Thanks,

On 1/28/2024 at 12:15 AM, glennw said:

I will have one guess without the plan.

In the Wall Definition dbx, open the Materials tab and select one of the entries and then Select Material...

Down at the bottom of the Select Material dbx, select Use Default Material.

Do the same for the other material.

 

 

 

So how do you change materials?  The wall definition was on siding, I just changed it to a different siding.  Regardless, no reason for it to reverse the layers.

On 1/27/2024 at 8:58 PM, para-CAD said:

Wow.  That is so weird.

Is it always on the same template (like hidden geometry)?

 

Can you start a fresh plan, from a different plan template?

 

If you PM me the size and location of items (screen shot of your plan) I'll create it in my template and send it back to you.  

Then we can troubleshoot this together (NO CHARGE FOR FREE)

 

Also, someone thinks your frustration is worth a down vote.  That's lame.

Yes there are koolaid drinkers out there.

 

 

 

Thanks.  I'm sure there is some obscure, irrelevant setting that's causing it to tilt.  I've done hundreds of plans in Chief and it's always something.  My overall point in the post is that it shouldn't be the case, certainly not on such a basic structure and maybe someone at Chief will start to look at some of these things.  Point in fact, I didn't change any of the other settings, just went in and changed the materials (which I did to begin with) and left it at that.  But after all the responses here, just to prove a point, I went back, without changing anything, and added doors and windows to the other walls and guess what happened?  Nothing.  It just added the doors and windows.  It's a glitch, period.

In response to your questions, yes, I use the same template for each plan, which I am always trying to update and improve.  Happy to send it over for your input.

Thanks,

On 1/27/2024 at 9:12 PM, mthd97 said:

You may have heard the saying “that a bad tradesman always blames his tools”. First we must learn how to use our tools correctly. I’m am very sure if you went over to the “R” word you will probably use the “F” more often. Probably just a simple user error. That has never happened to me in 25 years of using CA.

OK, skippy.  I'm sure you've never had an issue with Chief nonsense.

21 hours ago, DBCooper said:

According to the pictures you posted, Chief is doing exactly what it is supposed to do.  The exterior wall surface says it is white and the interior wall surface says it is siding and this is what it looks like in the pictures.  It doesn't matter what the wall type definition says since the wall surface materials always override the wall type materials unless they are set to "default".  As far as I know, this is the way that it has always worked.

 

So the only mystery here is how did you change the wall materials without realizing it?  I am pretty sure it was not by placing a door or window.  It also doesn't look like it is related to the problem Jason mentioned because your wall does not look reversed in your plan view (although I can't be so sure about this).  So other than the obvious case that you used the material painter on the wall, I really have no idea how you got in this state.  

 

Regardless, the simple fix is to just set your wall surface materials back to "default" (as suggested by Glenn).  Most of the time when you have wall material problems this is the best solution.

 

For what it's worth, here is a tech article about wall materials that you might find helpful:

https://www.chiefarchitect.com/support/article/KB-00005/changing-the-color-or-material-of-a-single-wall.html

 

On your first paragraph, no, that's what it changed to.  Chief did that all on it's own.  That's the point of the post.   I have the siding wall definition set on factory defaults (lap siding & drywall).  I selected all 4 walls and changed to a different siding material and color white.  So if Chief changing back to default wall definitions and reversing sides for whatever reason someone might come up with, once I've changed the materials manually and then decide to add a door or window is how it's supposed to work, then so be it.  But that's ridiculous.

Not a big deal to fix on a simple garage, obviously, but this happens on whole houses where I have multiple wall types with multiple different materials that I have selected, not painted.  And regardless if I paint the material or not, it shouldn't happen.  Or what is the tool for?  Point is, once I have manually selected a setting there is no reason it should revert to default or completely reverse/change the settings on the wall all on it's own.  It is a glitch (one of many). 

The nonsense is even more reflected in some of the answers above.  "I always draw the walls in a particular direction."  Great, and when your client comes back with an edit?  I drew 4 walls, all clockwise, btw, not that it should matter.  It's nonsense.  "If Chief is reversing your walls, look at your settings."  If Chief is reversing walls on a structure like this where it is obvious what is interior and exterior, for any reason, it's nonsense.  I could go on....

I'll take a look at the article.  Thanks.

On 1/28/2024 at 2:14 PM, GeneDavis said:

If it happens to me, I'll switch.  From rye whiskey to scotch.

Hah.  That's a good one.

49 minutes ago, BenPalmer said:

Number Style...bottom left hand corner of the screen shot you sent.

 

Crikey.  How simple.  Thank you!

So I somehow managed to change the dimensions in all the dropdowns/dialogues, etc form inches to feet and can't figure out how to change it back.  Please help.

Just one of myriad instances where I have to waste time because of your glitches.  Even on such a simple plan.

I add a window and door to a wall and you reverse the material on the model / elevation and even the material listed on the wall drop down, even thought it still shows accurate on the wall definition.

EVERY F'ING plan this happens on in some capacity.  I add or change something and you go tilt.  Looks like I'm heading to Revit.  So tired of this nonsense.

1 hour ago, MarkMc said:

You are using a wall elevation. There is a wall where you get dimensions but an invisible wall behind the island.

Change to a backclipped section.

 

OR setup a default set to do cabinet elevations manually (that's what I use instead of auto dims but you need several for different sets conditions so you can just click and drag)

 

Snip 2- could copy one camera in place, move forward, change technique to line drawing no squiggles or such and gray lines. Stack the two in layout.

Thank you, sir!

Any ideas (first snip)?

Also, does anyone know how to do what's shown in the 2nd snip (graying out the background)?

Thanks!

Sawmill DR (2).zip

Here's the plan.  Design is to match existing house, just putting that out there

Sawmill DR.zip

53 minutes ago, Chrisb222 said:

 

I'm sure there is too but I'm a little confused by your description of the issue. A drawing with notes, or better yet a plan file, and a better explanation of what you're after, would get you a quick solution. 

Chris, When it's unspecified it looks like this When I change the room to a patio it goes to this (no clue why) but it should drop the slab 1.5" and allow me to put a threshold in.  Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things, but I should be able to get it accurate, I would think.  Chief doesn't get what a porch / patio is, apparently.

And I have to go and delete the base and flooring, which is no big deal (just extra time), but I should be able to set defaults for the room.  Garage is goofy too...does a similar thing.  I've tried adjusting default for patio and just get a bunch of different things that aren't right.

19 minutes ago, Rosco2017 said:

I'm not 100% sure what your talking about but I'll give it a shot. If you want to lower the porch slab and keep the porch beam hgt at the same hgt of the main floor, then just change the two numbers next to the red arrows in my pic and it should drop the floor and leave the clg/beam height of the porch alone.

 

 

Thanks, Rosco.   I want to drop the whole thing but have only been able to get the pad to drop.  It leaves the beams at the same height so the middle of the patio is depressed.

Hey Y'all,

Not sure where Chief builds that they don't do this, but when I try to adjust manually for a 1.5" drop for the slab on a porch or patio, it just drops the pad and not the beams.  I'm sure there's a simple fix, but I haven't been able to find it.

Thanks!

On 9/28/2023 at 9:26 AM, SNestor said:

Terry -

I made some basic changes...which I noted on the floor plan. Seems to have fixed things...

 

High Octane Dallas plan - fixed.zip 7.75 MB · 9 downloads

Thank you, Steve!

Hey Y'all,

Looking for some metal building trim profiles if anyone has some (fascia, ridge, and corner).  Happy to pay.

Also can't get the wall above the lower section to display the material without a goofy Chief glitch (need to do a rendering of this).

And I created a corner trim piece by converting a polyline to molding (on front right corner) but can't get it to display on model.

Aaaand...can't figure out how to switch the ridge cap material for one of the metal profiles in the program (when I try to change it nothing populates in the library).

Any help is appreciated.

High Octane Dallas.zip

17 minutes ago, TeaTime said:

Just a thought though, if it's only happening with a certain type of wall, then it's a wall type issue.

Open your 6" Brick wall's definition and make sure the Brick layer doesn't have "Air Gap" checked, very bottom option.

That literally makes that layer not build anything in 3D.

That worked.  Weird thing is I didn't change anything in the definitions, it just disappeared.  Love Chief's many glitches!  Thanks!

Thoughts?  Don't know what happened, just went away.Wright Residence.zip

16 minutes ago, robdyck said:

There has been a bit of a loss of accuracy when drawing lines in section/elevation views. When the end of the line snaps to a cross section line, it can lose it's ability to remain straight.

This is new to X15 and I have raised this issue with TS. Obviously I don't know if this is what the OP was alluding to.

 

CAD LINE SNAP PROBLEM.wmv 6.1 MB · 0 downloads

Yeah, that's the issue, in elevation or layout views.  Hopefully they'll remedy the situation.

1 hour ago, DBCooper said:

If I was feeling snarky, I would say that I don't know any way not to draw a "straight" line using the "draw line" tool.  You can make a straight line curved after the fact by holding down the alt key though.

 

I am guessing that this is not what you meant though.  Maybe you have your "angle snaps" turned off so that you are always drawing lines at arbitrary angles?  And yes, you could assign a hot-key to turn angle snaps on/off if you wanted.  Maybe what you really want is to be able to draw a line at just orthogonal angles?  Unfortunately, you can only set your angle snaps to be either 15 or 7.5 degrees but I have always wanted to be able to set it to 90 or 45 degrees as well.

 

Or maybe you meant something else?

 

My angle snaps are on, and it's mostly in elevation views or when I need to edit in layouts.  In plan view it's typically not an issue.