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Community, I just want to toss in this question, and yes, I realize this a Chief community. However, I was just wondering if there are any former Revit users in this community, and if you switched to Chief for modeling houses, I would like to know why you switched, and did you realize any advantages of Chief over Revit. I keep leaning more to Chief, as Chief has a much better video library to take you through the basics. Thanks in advance.

I am posting this as FYI, and it has to do with the creation of ICF walls. I have been learning Chief and Revit at the same time, and the one thing that I really like about Chief over Revit is that Chief does have default ICF walls, whereas Revit does not. You have to create your ICF walls in Revit. I was just amazed that Autodesk did not have this OOTB functionality.

Uploaded a photo to show the difference.

Yes. NUDURA has very long blocks, 8'. The other companies, like Fox Block, make them 4' in length.

That's it. Thanks for the input. I am just learning Chief, as you can tell. But I'm just staring with some basics.

Now I have to show true ICF patterns. If I use a NUDURA block, which is 18" in height (and 8' long), and stack two for a total of 36", I should be able to show that. Yes?

That was it. I just unchecked it. Now the framing is flush to the top of the foundation wall.

You're right. I deleted the sill plates, because they have to be removed. The foundation wall is an ICF wall, and the first ICF wall will be erected on top of the ICF foundation wall. The footer is the first pour. The foundation wall is the second pour. And the first wall is the third pour (speaking of concrete). So I guess I have to go back to the settings and remove sill plates?

The one obvious setting is "Hang 1st Floor Platform Inside Foundation Walls". This drops the joist down inside the foundation wall, but not all the way. The top slightly protrudes above the foundation wall, as shown in the attached image.

Community, I have two questions. 1. I used ICF blocks on a footer to build my foundation wall, and the bottom of the first ICF block should mate with the top of the footer. However, when you look at the attached image, the first ICF block is very narrow, and I placed red marks through the top of the first ICF blocks. How can this be corrected? 2. How can I make the floor joist part of the foundation wall? Notice how the floor joists are above the ICF foundation wall. Thanks in advance.

Yes, I'm using the trial version, and you cannot save. But you are right, the auto framing defaults were not selected. It's fine now.

Thanks to Joe and David. I check the automatic functions in the framing defaults for Foundation, 1st, and Wall. That fixed it.

Okay. I will try that, because I don't think I had that checked. I didn't have that checked, because I don't have any framing in my walls yet. I only have exterior ICF walls (concrete). So I'm just interested in the foundation and ceiling framing. Thanks.

I think I had that checked, based upon the Chief training video. I will try it again.

Thanks for the input.

After watching some of the online videos today and yesterday, I see what you mean. I had to study the exterior walls and foundation videos twice, and pause often to replicate the Chief way. Sure enough, the first floor exterior wall is modeled first, then the foundation. Then I found a new "problem" as I am training on Chief, after you move a wall that has the framing, like floor joist and ceiling beams, the framing does not update. I started a new post on this just a few minutes ago.

I modeled a small 20x10 ICF building and auto framed the floor joist and ceiling beams. I changed one of the walls to 15'-10", but the framing did not update to the new length. Is there a way to make sure the framing updates if wall lengths are changed? Thanks in advance.

After watching Chief videos on walls and foundations, I'm beginning to see what you mean by the Chief way. Thanks for all your input.

I don't think the trial version of Chief has the joist hangers.

GeneDavis, For SoftPlan, I have not been able to locate CAD details yet. I have been spending most of my time learning Chief. I do like the ribbon based GUI in SoftPlan vs all the pull-down text menus in Chief. But I guess you have the custom toolbars in Chief, which helps speeds up the process.

Yes, I know Chief won't add them automatically, and that is not what I was asking. Thanks for the input anyway.

CJSpud, What is the best joist hanger to use for ICF walls when it comes to attaching the joists for the first floor? Thanks in advance.

CJSpud, I am looking for all of the available types of joist hangers that can come with Chief. Thanks in advance.

Then I might have to make the footer (first pour) and the first ICF wall up to the joist (second pour), the remaining ICF wall will belong to the first floor (third pour). So the foundation will have the first two pours, and the first floor will have the final pour. This actually done in the real world.

Community, I have been watching a lot of Chief training videos on how to make walls, foundations, and floor joists, and I am trying to figure out a way to integrate joist hangers into the ICF wall to connect the floor joists. In the real world, the footer is poured first, then the ICF wall erected, reinforced, joist hangers inserted, and braced, then concrete poured into the ICF wall. The ICF wall will start on the footer and rise all the way up to the ceiling of the room, (and this will include the encapsulated crawl space), for example, 13 feet high. And the joist hangers will be, for example, 3 feet above the footer. Can Chief do this? Thanks in advance. I have inserted an example of an ICF with a floor joist attached. I found this image from an older post, and it shows one type of hanger that comes with Chief (ICF wall ledger at floor), but that is not in my library.