GeorgeDosil

Thanks all...I'm grateful for the help...like Dermot said, I probably hit the button by mistake and shut it off.

I'm in the middle of doing a plan and this strange icon or symbol shows up out of nowhere and follows my cursor. I attached a screenshot.

17 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

I’ve typically modeled those overframes in one of 2 ways...

 

-Manually using solids

-Using trusses that are essentially just rafters (edited as necessary in truss detail).

 

In both cases though I’ve typically used a Truss Base for underneath the over-frame area.  

Do you have any photo's you can show of the finished model? I like the truss idea, I may try that.

18 hours ago, DzinEye said:

By 'data' I assume you're talking about materials list(s)?  Right, of course that getting the framing to actually model correctly is a whole-nuther thing.... although not sure I'm following you on "you'd still want your valley's to connect" ?... There wouldn't be valley framing in the lower roof plane if it's California Framed.  

If I had to make a choice, I'd prefer to have the model framed correctly vs having an accurate material take-off. 

On 5/29/2020 at 11:54 AM, robdyck said:

That's right. To clarify I was referring to the valley portion of the roof plane. In Chief, you'd still want those connected. Even if you were to carry the lower roof plane through, you'd still need to model the framing manually. They're all wrong!

A roof runs through it:

roofs connected at valleys: 

a separate roof plane underneath with the surfaces removed:

That's exactly the problem. How would you draw the valley plate? The jack rafters have a horizontal as well as a bevel cut to match the plane of the main roof. Can Chief do this?
 

On 5/29/2020 at 7:57 AM, DavidJPotter said:

Not familiar with that Name "California Valley" perhaps some of the CA users can help. Without a good graphic definition for that term it is hard to offer real help.

 

Is the image below what you are wanting, please confirm. If it is, then this sort of thing is easy to accomplish either "Automatically" or manually.

 

DJP

David, I should have been more descriptive with my question. The California or Blind Valley is what you have pictured in your post. Instead of a valley rafter this method uses a valley plate to which all the jacks are attached to. Here is a photo and a Youtube link which shows it in Sketchup. 

Signature updated. Thanks David.

Hi, just joined, new user. I'm trying to model two intersecting gable roofs, where one will lay over the other...it's called a blind or California valley. I did a search here and online but cant find anything on this topic. Thanks beforehand for any help.