LeeDrafter

Hi All, I am trying to achieve a ray trace with a tree in the foreground that sort of frames the picture. Attached is an example of my goal- I did not create the attached jpg. I am getting close by placing a tree close to the camera but mostly out of view, but every tree I have tried is blurry. See the saved camera in the attached file. Then I place another big tree closer to the house to create a shadow on the house/driveway. I will crop that tree out of the final picture. Are there any trees CA has that you recommend for close-up high resolution (5500x3200 pixels) ray trace? I found a thread from the old Chief Talk where they had a similar problem and Larry Kumpost  suggested a high res tree, but I don't know where to find one. Here is the old thread http://www.chieftalk.com/showthread.php?34289-Exterior-Critique&highlight=trees+foreground. Thank you in advance!

THE ADLER RENDERING.zip

On 6/19/2019 at 8:07 PM, BrownTiger said:

This is difficult to tell, where could the settings be ... they could be just anywhere ....

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C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Chief Architect Inc\Chief Architect Premier X10.ini

Thank you! I had to take a 2nd look at your post, but I think we can re-direct things now that you pointed out that ini file. 

On 6/20/2019 at 1:09 AM, Kbird1 said:

 

Chief normally stores all the User Files in the Chief Data Folder which it usually keeps in My Documents, if you are worried about it being on your Server I wouldn't be keeping my Data Folder on OneDrive either. Keep it local and back it up to OneDrive instead.

 

M.

Thank you, the one drive folder is within the hard drive, then it gets backed up to the one drive cloud. So I think we are ok there.

I am wondering if I can change the path to "my documents" to refer to a different folder. My work server is set up so that all computers' "my documents" folders are on the server. I think Chief automatically looks for "my documents" for certain things. I am hoping to change that to a different file location that is not on my server. I read an article this morning that lead me to believe this is possible in version X11, but maybe not previous versions. Is that right?

1 hour ago, Renerabbitt said:

folder preferences are in edit/preferences/general/folder/

Thank you Rene, I was able to change almost all of those to my hard drive. But when I clicked "Show" all program paths, the bottom program path is still set to "My Documents", and I don't know how to change it. A snip is attached.

Thanks,

Lee

Hello,

My "My Documents" folder on my work computer is actually on our server, and I know CA is not meant to be used over a network. I would like everything Chief Architect uses "My Documents" for to go in a different folder. How do I re-direct everything that references "My Documents"? I have started a folder on my hard drive called "CA My Documents" and was hoping to use that as the replacement folder. I have already moved all the CA files and libraries that I can find, but chief seems to look for that My documents folder sometimes.

Thank you,

Lee

X10

Hello,

My "My Documents" folder on my work computer is actually on our server. I would like everything Chief Architect uses "My Documents" for to go in a different folder. How do I re-direct everything that references "My Documents"?

Thank you,

Lee

X10

21 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

from what Mark said that is cos you made a CAD Block out of them , if they were individual they would be on the Shutters Layer still.... you can use a bock to move them aroud and place them , just explode it again when they are in position.

I will just put the individual polyline solids on the shutters layer before I block them, then put the block on the shutters layer also. 

10 minutes ago, MarkMc said:

SO I forgot that you can't copy elevation cameras, principle remains that you need multiple cameras. So I made new cameras each using a different layer set.

One issue I ran into was that your shutters are not just located on the shutter layer but also on Cad default (since they are blocked) and you need to turn that layer off to turn off the shutters. I fiddeld with it in X10 then realized you are on 9 so only posting image from layout-3 cameras each using a different layer set Changed material on front is a material region set to NOT cut layer-only turned on in one view. Just proof of concept.

So no you only need mulitple files IF you are changing something structural or integral to a symbol -like if your shutters were part of the window instead of how you have them.

Thanks Mark! That definitely helped when I turn off CAD default. I thought since I changed the layer of the shutter blocks to "shutters" that it was now on the shutters layer. I didn't realize it was still secretly on the CAD default layer. I didn't know that any object could be on two layers at the same time for that matter. 

I haven't used material regions much, so I will learn more about that to possibly avoid the different files for shakes and stone. 

Thank you!!

24 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

The 2nd option (layout box) is acting weird , you didn't have the roof displayed and the Foundation is not showing either but not time right now to look more...

 

I right clicked each layout box and set Plot lines instead of Live View ...since you have four different Live Views on that one sheet you would need 4 different Plans to do what you are trying I think , otherwise any change in the Plan will change the Live View when Printed too...., with 4 plans you should be able to Use Live View I think.

 

I have not tried Marks multiple Cameras method but I am not sure how that works cos the Model would change and hence the Elevation view would change as you add or delete options in each camera.

 

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Thank you, I was wondering if 4 different plan files might be the solution. It seems like you should be able to send different layer sets from elevations just like you can with plan view layer sets, but I guess that doesn't work. I couldn't get it to work with plot lines either, so I'm not sure live view is the problem. Thanks so much for your help. 

31 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

is this what you want?

 

Yes, but no shutters on the 2nd option, see attachedRidgeline Elevations Options_MHD.pdf

 

 

14 hours ago, Chopsaw said:

Lee,  It appears you are doing everything correctly.  The only way I can see that getting fouled is if you are sending to layout with "Make Copy of Active Layer Set" selected in the Send to Layout DBX.

 

Have you tried relinking  the layout views ?  You can also change the referenced layer set  if you need to.

Thanks Chopsaw, that didn't fix the problem, but those a great tools to check that I am linked and referenced correctly. 

Thank you Mark, Very interesting. I did not realize that it doesn't work to create different layer sets for the same camera. So, I tried your method of creating a different camera on a different layer for a different layer set. I am still having the problem with the two different cameras wanting the reference the same layer set. I re-started chief architect, but that didn't help either. I thought we were on to something. I'll keep playing with it and see if I can figure something out.

I'd rather not send to layout as an image because I want to be able to adjust the drawing in the future without having to re-make the layout page. That is also why I don't check the box to make a copy of the active layer set. Although I did just try the method of making a copy of the active layer set when sending to layout, and it also did not fix the problem. 

I am not having as many problems with the "corbels" layer as I am with the "shutters" layer, so now I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the shutters layer. The shutters are homemade polyline solids blocked together. The corbels are just the architectural blocks found in the CA library and slightly modified for size. Do you think that plays a part for some reason? 

8 minutes ago, solver said:

Think they would go for a bit nicer porch?

 

that does look nice, thanks. 

Just now, builtright3 said:

 

I feel ya! I gave you a point olso!

thanks!! I don't know if points matter that much, but I want to be able to keep asking questions and getting replies  

Thanks Eric, I actually read that article earlier this afternoon. I don't think it addressed my specific problem, but it was helpful in learning about copies of layer sets for layout and why that is an option. I don't think it would help on this issue unless I am still not understanding something.

Thanks for the up-vote, much appreciated. I didn't realize you can see where votes have been given. Where can I see that? If I get negative feedback, I can try to make it right.

By the way, I don't why my reputation rating is so low. I have always been polite and pleasant on this forum. I do try to research questions before posting a new topic as to not waste anybody's time. I also try to help with other user questions, but usually there other, more-experienced people answering questions. Anyway, I hope my low rating doesn't discourage discussion about my posted questions. I really appreciate this forum. It is a very valuable tool. thanks

Hello,

I am having an issue with layer sets for elevation views not showing correctly on layout. I am trying to accomplish a one page layout with live (color) views of different versions on one elevation. I want four versions of the same elevation on one page.

I made layers for window shutters and corbels. For the default elevation layer set "section view set" I turned on shutters. Then I made a new layer set, a copy of "section view set" but renamed it "Elev B-Corbels" and turned off the shutters and turned corbels on. I sent two elevations to layout, one from each layer set. 

Then I saved the same plan as a new name to change the gable siding to shakes. (I don't think this can be done just by using layers, but if so please let me know). I made a new layer set called "Elev C-shakes" just for clarity even though a new layer is not needed because it is a totally new file. I turned off corbels and shutters and changed the gable siding to shakes.

I saved a new plan for the stone option similar to what I did for the shakes option.

The layout views don't seem to be keeping there association. For example, when I work on the original file on the "Elev B-corbels" layer, it changes the layout view for the "section view set" layer. And when I work on the separate files for the stone, it updates all the layout views as if they were all linked to that file.

Another problem is even if the layout looks good on Chief, when I print to pdf, it has different layout views. 

Is this a problem with having multiple files sent to the same layout? They are all saved in the same folder. Or is it a problem with making new layer sets for elevation views or using live views instead of plot line views?

Thanks for your help.

layout.zip

original plan, 2 elevation layer sets.zip

shakes plan.zip

stone plan.zip

what prints.pdf

thanks for the tip, I will be more clear with my question with pictures next time. 

6 minutes ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

Lee,  I believe the problem you are seeing was a bug in X9 that has been fixed in X10. 

Thanks, I will have to upgrade, good to know.

5 minutes ago, Kbird1 said:

 

Back of the house or do you mean the Bottom of the roof plane?

 

Attached is the eave I am talking about. But hanks for the advice on the porch eave too.

1 hour ago, Kbird1 said:

Design wise I think it would look odd with a flat eave at the Top of that Roof plane , so a sloped eave top and bottom maybe more appropriate anyway

 

I agree, an "eave" at the top would look weird, I should have explained my question better. I am concerned with the bottom eave on the back

Thanks Mick, I noticed that issue as well with the porch roof. There will be another townhome next to this one, so I figured that problem area will be hidden and not worth worrying about . The area I was most concerned about is the bottom eave on the back of the building. It is different than the front bottom eave on the same roof. It does change based on if I check "flush eave" or not. I will probably just uncheck that box and manually re-size the gable siding to fill in that spot. It won't be right, but I think I can get it to look right from the elevations. I was just wondering if there was a cleaner fix. Thanks again

On 10/24/2018 at 5:41 PM, solver said:

 

Not specifically.

 

I usually start by auto building a roof, making changes as needed to get the roof to build correctly, or close, then go manual if needed. 

 

Flush eaves rarely work 100% for me. Here is a very typical example. One roof plane -- flush eave on one end, but not on the other. This may come and go, and move to a different roof plane.

 

 

 

What I have found is as I said above, the cleaner the model, the better things seem to work.

I am having this same problem with the front eave looking different than the back eave on the same roof. I tried to clean the plan up, and I'm sure it's not perfect, but I don't know what else to fix. I've had this same problem on other plans as well. Let me know if you have found a solution or if anybody else has an idea. I have attached my plan in case it's helpful. I am using X9. My goal is the look on the front where the siding continues along the eave to the fascia. thanks

plan.zip

thank you, I'll do that.

Hello,

I just auto-built floor framing for floor 1, and usually it shows on floor 0 so I can see support walls beneath joists. This time floor 1 framing is appearing on floor 1 plan view. However, when I look at the orthographic view of the framing, it is correct. This may have happened because I changed floor 1 during design. I used to have it as a basement, so on floor 0, but then I added a crawl space underneath, so the "basement" is now floor 1 and the crawl space is floor 0. I would appreciate any help to make the floor framing appear on floor 0 so I can see the crawl space below. Thanks!!

Lee, X9

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