YellowfinDesign

WOW. I cannot believe it was that simple.

Problem Solved!!!!

Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike

I have a plan open with the "Active Layer Set Control" set to Architectural Set.

Therefore, I can see my wall layers (1/2" drywall on 2 x 4 studs).

When I send it to layout, it automatically goes to "default set" and does not show the wall layers in the layout.

I double click on the plan that is on the layout page to go back to the plan, and now the plan's "Active Layer Set Control" is now set to Default Set.

How did this happen?

I did not (knowingly) change anything.

I have included a pdf of the layout as well as a pdf of from the plan view to show the difference.

I can email the file if it helps. I would rather not attach the file to this post.

Can anyone help me?

Mike

Ok quick update. This is only happening on ONE of the 14 pages in the layout file. There is another page that is linked to the same plan file, and that one works fine.

2014-08-14 Newman Bsmt Bar-Floor Plan.pdf

2014-08-14 Newman FM3-Layout.pdf

Perfect forum to ask.

 

1. The first thing you'll do is move your molding polyline to the back of the cabinet in plan view.

2. Next, set the height of the molding polyline to whatever height suits your cabinet setup. For me it was 85" (as shown in screenshot).

3. If the beadboard sticks out of the top of the cabinet, simply reduce the Height of the beadboard in the Moldings tab of the dialog box.

4. If the beadboard is not "thick" enough to be fully seen inside the cabinet, move the molding polyline about a half inch away from the wall.

 

Remember to make an Architectural Block so that when you move the cabinet, the beadboard will go with it.

 

Hope this helps!

Bart

Perfect. Thank You!!

Mike

I changed my:  Preferences...Edit...Snap Properties...Options...Snap Distance... to 10

This seems to help. Not sure why, but it does.

Thanks glennw for the suggestion.

Mike

This is a 3D molding that will place repeated beadboard panels along any molding polyline.

 

It is low-poly (92 faces) so you can use plenty of it in your plan as needed (this one's for you, ArchiJeff).

 

It comes in at an automatic height of 3'-6", but it can be shrunk or stretched to any height.

 

The 3D Symbol options are set so that the tongue and groove overlaps as it repeats.

 

Enjoy!

Great bead board. I am trying to figure out however, how you made the cabinet with a beaded back (on the interior)

Pardon me if this is not the correct forum to ask you this question.

Mike

I've run into a sporadic problem with snapping cad lines and don't have the cause so can't help there.

I've taken to overshooting the line and going back and using the trim tool set to stickly mode- faster for me.

 

I don't have to spec the openings or frames for every cabinet but do have to do several per job. I recently switched to premier in part for just that, to speed it up. Once all is settled using models I copy specific cabinets to blank wall(s-sometimes use several walls to keep things separated) somewhere, group select them and uncheck "include in schedule" - change all doors and drawers to openings, then CAD detail from view, and snap dimensions. Leaves very little drawing required.

I typically call out drawer boxes and roll outs etc. if I need a visual I use a polyline.

 

IF a cabinet changes in the model I only have to copy that one on my "warehouse wall".

 

I have not figured out a foolproof way to signal that a cabinet has change in model but I recently got the cabinet schedule working the way I need (thanks forum). In the process of working with that I discovered that there are several fields in the items component list that will revert after any changes are made to a cabinet (comments for one) I'm looking at a way to use that as a signal that a cabinet's detail needs to be changed.

Mark, I do something very similar to what you are doing. I have a library full of standard cabinet sizes so I don't have to draw typical cabinets. We do, however, send to the shop, copies of ALL cabinet face frame drawings for every job, as to minimize common mistakes like door swings, extended stiles, finished interiors, etc.

Still messing with this X6 to get it right....Hopefully someone can answer my question.

Thanks!

Mike

Mike,

 

What is your Preferences...Edit...Snap Properties...Options...Snap Distance set to?

Sorry for the long delay in responding to your post.

It is set to 4

Mike

I do some custom cabinetry too.  Most of the time I can get Chief to show the face frame how I want to build it without having to draw it using the cad tools.  I only use cad lines when I actually need to dimension to the face frame.  Have you tried turning on the layer for cabinet module lines while in an elevation view?

I have not tried this, but I will look into it.

We use these drawings to produce shop drawings and they are part of our order process. The face frames are only one part of the drawing. There are many notes, dimensions, information about shelves, pull out trays, drawer box, hinges...etc. I have found that other than pencil and paper, drawing in CAD gives us the most flexibility as well as "proving" dimensions for custom cabinetry.

Having said that, I am always open to new ways of doing things do save time. Right now though, I just cant figure out why or what changed within this program in the last month that is causing my hair to fall out! lol

Thanks!

Mike

I have not seen this problem.

 

Why are you drawing your own face frames and not letting Chief do it for you?

I manufacture custom cabinetry. Everything we do begins with a face frame.

Could some please help me understand or guide me to the proper settings for the following problem.

I draw Face Frames for Custom Cabinetry. When I do so, I start by drawing a rectangle, dimension it, and then start drawing vertical and horizontal lines to suit. The problem I am having is; when I draw a line and it comes close to a perpendicular line, it does not snap or stop right at that line like it used to. I end up having to zoom in really close in order for me to make it right. Very Time Consuming!!

What am I missing?

I have everything checked under Preferences>Edit>Snap Properties>Object Snaps

Is there something else?

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Mike

Open X5 and insert your symbol in a plan save it then open X6 and open that plan file, then you can save it to your X6 lib.

Right On Perry!

We keep this info secret for users with less than 20  posts.

 

Seriously though,  I just use a double oven to represent an oven with mw above.

 

I never knew there was a oven /mw in library.

 

You know what,  it seems to me with x6 they now allow two appliance in a cabinet......  am I correct on this....  I think I tried it once,  did not spend much time on it,  but was not able to make it work.

They do allow you to use/install more then on appliance in a cabinet. Trick is, you have to place an appliance (like a microwave) on the floor, size it, save it to your library. Kind of a pain. I guess I will have to go back to my old files and start saving plans that have hat type of appliance within it, and save it to a new X6 file.

Just want my combo micro/oven back....

Thanks

I just use a single oven and a built in microwave in a tall cabinet

Thanks.  But looking for a more unified look like the same manufacturer.

May sound silly, but prior to upgrading to X5 and then to X6, I HAD a 30" Oven/Microwave Combination in my core catalog V10.

Now, there is no such animal in my core catalog. Am I missing something?

I have looked just about everywhere. I cannot find even find it in the user center>catalog downloads.

Where can I get this type of Appliance? Is there a secret hiding place that I am not privy to?

Thanks in advance for all who help!

Mike

I don't think you will get any kind of ceiling structure until you build either a roof or floor above. Then it will show up in your cross section views. You might be able to get the look you want by building the roof and then turning it off in the cross section. Or, if all else fails, just draw it in using the cad tools.

Yes, this seems to be the case. Thank You for your input.

I am marking this as solved or answered so nobody need reply anymore.

This will just go down as an unsolved mystery I guess.

Thanks for all who tried to help!

Mike

I'll take those rep points anytime, thanks. I think your answer is, they changed it and you'll have to draw lines for the voids. I thought taking away the framing would leave the void , but it doesn't. For me I like to see the framing, but that's me.

Yup. Title should have been "What happened to my Ceiling Framing in my Elevations"

I am all thumbs sometimes.. could not change it after the post.

Yes, this seems to be the case. I have attached an X5 simple drawing 2014-04-30 differen wall types.plan. Please drag a Back-clipped Cross Section camera. They all have floor framing, or, void as you put it, but no ceiling framing (void)

I used different wall types just for ships and giggles.

X6 is the same way. I just cant seem to get it to show my ceiling framing (void)

This being the true Topic of this thread.

Mike

Not yelling at you, just to lazy ,and forget to change the all caps sometimes

My dry sense of humor as well to blame. I should have put "LOL" after I wrote "why are you yelling at me..."

Hey, but I gave you a reputation point!

Ha Ha!

MIke

V10 seems so long ago.  It may have shown floor structure and ceiling structure in simple diaphragm format, when doing a section.  Lines of the outer envelope.

 

We got to add more detail to structure as releases came out, thus your issue.  We now don't get the diaphragm bounds, instead, we get all the details of frame and finish.

 

So why not just settle for some CAD boxes and call it a wrap, if you want that old look?  I am kind of surprised a cabinet specialist like you would not want the wall elevation instead.

Gene,

Thanks for your post. 1st thing that has made any sense so far.

I provide a service that offers more than just cabinetry design, so I need to learn this upgraded version.

Thank you again for your explanation. I will now look for help in other locations.

Mike

Mike,

 

There is no such camera as a "Back Clipped Wall Section" camera.

 

The Wall Elevation camera does not show the side walls, ceiling or floor framing.

 

The Back Clipped Cross Section camera and the Cross Section/Elevation cameras show the side walls, ceiling and wall framing - assuming that the framing has been built and the layers displayed.   

Glenn,

I meant to type Back-Clipped "Cross" Section not "Wall" section.

I know the "Wall Elevation" camera does not show side walls, ceiling and floor framing.

The Back Clipped Cross Section or the Cross Section/Elevation cameras are what I use.

I just cant seem to figure out how.

If someone could open the attached file2014-04-29 36WALL 96CLG.plan and explain how to make it look like the PDF I attached 2014-04-26 Newman Kit Elev V10.pdf at the beginning this thread, I would very much appreciate it.

Once again, thank you for your help. I am just not getting it.

HERE IT IS ,I JUST TURNED ON THE LAYERS YOU NEEDED AND ADDED THE FRAMING

If you want a floor , you need to build one

Not really sure why you are yelling at me in all caps.

The plan you modified looks nothing like what I am trying to achieve.

I apologize if I have not explained correctly on this forum what it is I wish to do.

Thank you for your help though.

The images you posted look like wall elevations not cross sections. There is a big difference in that wall elevations are not supposed to show the side walls. I know that at one point in time we fixed bugs with the wall elevations to fix cases where the walls were shown when they shouldn't be.

To be clear. I use "Back-clipped Wall Sections" and "Cross Section/Elevation" to create my elevations for my cabinetry plans. Both appear to do the same thing as far as what they show. 

I have attached a new file from X6. (which I upgraded to over the weekend)

Please drag a Cross Section/Elevation or a Back-clipped Wall Section. They look exactly alike.

But... unlike the PDF drawings I attached earlier, there is no floor or ceiling framing shown. If I am not using the correct nomenclature, I apologize. Just compare the PDF's to the to the new plan. See the difference?

I want my elevation s to look like they used to.  Very Frustrated!! 

2014-04-29 36WALL 96CLG.plan

thanks

Mike

Are you using the cross section tool or the wall elevation tool?

Cross section..

I don't see any framing in either of those pdf's. Chief is all about layers, you can show anything in any view you want just by turning them on and off. Check your layers for those things and you have to frame it to show it. Turn on auto framing floors-ceilings / walls / roofs.

Ok. Fair enough. There is no “framing” shown.

Specifically, if you compare both cross sections, you should see at the bottom of each drawing a black outline which would appear to be the floor framing… Should be the same for the ceiling.

But it is missing on the one drawing.

I want it to be there.  And that is what I am trying to figure out.

I will try your suggestions.

Thank you for your help!!!

Check your framing layer settings while in Elevation view.

 

Or, post your plan.

 

jon

I checked them, then tried turning on and off different framing layers.

It did not work or I am still missing something.

Best to post the PLAN not a PDF.

Have you built the roof and turned on floor and ceiling framing?.

I will send a plan next time. Thanks.

I have not built a roof.