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3 hours ago, VHampton said:

As an experiment, go to preferences and turn it off altogether.

Turning off the undo didn't improve the performance.  I'm thinking it has something to do with the number of layout boxes referring to the plan....

On 3/13/2020 at 11:01 AM, ACADuser said:

it takes 8 seconds to switch from floor plan to framing plan.

When I close the Layout file it takes one second

I am seeing this type of lag with a layout file open, as well.  8-10 seconds to relocate a window label.  Less than a second with the layout file closed.  I do have a few live views in the layout, but not any more than I usually have, and the slow down is substantially greater than I have seen before the last release.  It's not limited to one project either, I'm seeing a lag across the board.

Happens to me, too.  I reported the bug, but haven't been able to narrow it down to a point where I can accurately reproduce the bug.

Thanks for your help, Michael. I think you've confirmed my suspicion.  I've tried importing defaults and annosets, but those particular settings don't come across.  I'll send in a feature request.

I have the story pole dimension defaults set up the way I want in my templates, and I would like to export them from my template plan and import into another plan.  Anyone know if there's a way?

Thanks for the heads-up.  Glad I saw this before I updated - I will wait!

Thanks for the fix, Chief!

I THINK I might use the same technique as Perry. I just shade walls various shades of gray (I usually use around 50 - get it?) 

Thanks Larry.

Haha...I got the reference.

Here's the response I received from support:

Hi Steve,
Thank you for sending me the backed up plan file and for bringing this to our attention. I was able to duplicate the behavior you describe and I will be sending this to our developers so that they can work to resolve this issue.
Unfortunately, I do not have a solution for you at this time.

Chief Architect Technical Support

Thanks Perry.  I may start dialing in some grayscale settings...

Generally I would recommend choosing layer colors that are what you want and always printing in color. That way you can control everything the way you want.

I can see what you're saying.  I'm not totally opposed to that, but I like having different fill colors (rather than different shades) for different wall types because I can quickly see and differentiate between wall types in plan view.

I tend to double click the plan in layout view to enter into the desired layerset for detailing.  If it is set up with everything as a shade of gray in the layerset, I think it would slow productivity a bit, not having color to aid in quickly differentiating between joists, trusses, roof plane edges, etc.

I know that can be handled by changing the layer/annoset once in the plan, but it adds another step to the process.

Perry and Larry - are you using a different layer/annoset for working in the plan, than presentation view in the layout?

That is what I was thinking of.

There it is.  I didn't realize it was changed back in X6.

I was sure there was an option somewhere that said Always Print Images in Color, or some such thing.

Maybe it am thinking of the Display in Color When Possible setting.

I think they may have changed the verbiage in X7.   I'm seem to remember the "Print Images in Color", too.

I assume you want to print like the second image.

Spot on, Glenn.  I have the settings exactly as you have, and everything looks great - right down to the preview...but when it saves the .pdf file, the .jpg files come out grayscale.

Did you print the files you posted running Chief X7 Build 17.2.0.69?  

Brian - I submitted the plan through the Online Support Center.  Thanks for your help!

It seems like I always had to have print in color turned on to get gray scale as well as color. If I didn't have print in color on I wouldn't get the gray scale.

 

If you do 'print in color' does the gray scale print in anything other than the gray it's supposed to?

If I select "Print in Color", everything prints in color...the logo, the blue and yellow walls, etc.

I have "Color Off is:  Grayscale" selected in the Preferences/Appearance/Display dbx. and the color toggle in the layout window is toggled to "Off".

I also have "Images and Pictures: 'Display in Color when Possible'" selected under Preferences/Appearance/Display.

Brian,

Thanks for the reply.  Here is another example that may illustrate my problem clearer.  In the past I have been able to print a grayscale floor plan and a logo in color.

Now when the plan is printed (saved as .pdf) the logo prints out in grayscale - unless "print in color" is selected in the .dbx...but selecting that, as you mentioned, prints everything in color.

I've included a screenshot of the print dbx, as well.  Strange, the preview shows the logo in color, but the output file is all grayscale.

I cleared the printer info, but there was no change.

After the latest update, colored jpg's print out grayscale....see attached.  I've messed with the "print with color" setting in the print .dbx, but that prints everything in color.

I want the plan to print out as grayscale and jpgs colored!

Ross,  are you using automatic roofs?  I was using manual, I like the freedom manual roofs allow...I don't have much luck with auto-roofs on complicated roofs.

Here's another version - I played with roof pitches to try to accommodate the existing second story windows.  It may change look of the elevation too much, though.

The rear bedroom still has a window conflict, not sure there's much you can do with the roof there.  May need to play with window sizes and configurations to get a window arrangement that works, and still meets egress code.

Where the front-left tower meets the Study, it creates an alcove in the upper level wall.  Not a huge deal, as a cricket roof can be built in that corner.  Another option would be to add a beam that spans the width of the Study (front to back on the plan) and create a plant shelf above the french doors leading to the Study.  The upper story roof and wall would bear on the added beam...I hope that makes sense.

Hawthorne Park Estates Lot 67 - from Steve - Revised Roof Pitches.zip

Here's my quick roof layout.

Hawthorne Park Estates Lot 67 - from Steve.zip

I'm taking a swing at it, as well....

A few observations:

1)  There may be quite a few window/roof conflicts on the second story.

2)  The roof over the closet on the right side is lower in the hand-drawn front view, will this be an 8' ceiling in the closet instead of a 9'?

3)  The higher eave between the towers can be achieved with a taller truss heel in that area (assuming you are building with trusses).