Perhaps I should have should have said "perfect" I am very clearly aware there is no such thing. I was simply after some settings that worked really well for someone else. And while I said 'I did not have time' I simply meant 'that day' as I had to produce some images as soon as possible and the settings I was playing with were not producing what I wanted. I just wanted a little guidance for an afternoons work, not my whole career. If those of you who had nothing nice to say why didn't you just say nothing? Rather than taking the mickey out of my question, you could have looked past it and moved on to the next person. The forum is there to help others, not make them uncomfortable. For those who provided some setting guidance thank you so much. I will play with these a little today to determine what does and doesn't work. Please don't reply to this message now as I don't want to continue this conversation.