Steve_Matlaga

On 11/24/2021 at 1:46 PM, MarkMc said:

I use a toe kick set to 0 so that I can match that to the room baseboard height, Then there is no need to alter the bottom rail and/or allows for rapid change of separations on demand for the entire cabinet. I would do this even if using individual cabinets (Not to mention I think learning how to adjust symbols is a really worthwhile skill

I use the custom panel since it looks better in 3D views.  Standard door on left, recess symbol on right.

Finally stretching it to the length of the wall eliminates the need for math if you can use an even number of panels.It does get a bit trickier than an odd number since Chief won't equalize the vertical sections so then you need math. I think it's still faster than adding individual cabinets but odd number is a pain in either case.

Attached has the panel floating in the plan.

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Long time, no talk.   I recently talked a friend into buying Chief.  He is loving it.   I am going through some tough personal stuff, so away from the 'hobby' for a while.

I'm curious.   Is there an advantage to using a side inset, vs. a door panel?   I know you love the side inset asset best, but wondering how it would differ or have an advantage.  
Great job by the way!   What a simple, clever solution to making a proper WC panel.   I really appreciate this. Silly me was about to use an interior door and turn it into a WC panel.  

Thanks Marc. 

17 hours ago, MarkMc said:

It already works for beaded inset. That's how I've done beaded since we got style palettes; as well a few other oddballs (which do include side adjustment) along with most all cabinets with mods or accessories. All include the object info fields where I keep info for accessories,other mods, and labels. I rarely use SPs for is sides since we can't split them out but I have a few.

Once you get how well they work the worst part is keeping all of them organized in the library

Hi

Yes, and I see that you CAN do it, and you are doing it, but the issue is ""

It is taking EVERYTHING.   Shelves, (Roll outs)<  Any height to the fronts,  sides, everything under one TAG.    
It should be broken out into Shelves,  Accessories, Sides, Panels.   

As you said also, you'd have a heck of time creating an insane number of style palettes, instead of just being able to simply have an option for the exact parts you need and want!

Am I still missing something?   I 

Hi Friends,

In the latest round of mess around, I thought someone might be interest in my current door style beta testing. 

In the spirit of this group of wonderful sharing folk, I wanted to let others see just how amazing Chief really can be!

This is a Chief Architect standard base cabinet.   I've made the door have the ability to apply four five different textures, the beaded inset also has two additional textures. 
This was created in Sketchup (which is 100x easier for making doors imho), imported to chief, and a set of custom textures were made for the specific client's selection.   

Both the door in chief is included as well as the sketchup file.   Maybe, it will give you inspiration to make your own and share on the forum!  

No doubt, there are great tricks on beaded inset found on the forum, but for me, when it comes to ease of use, have the beaded detail as part of the door style is a big time saver.   

I'll be creating some other beaded details that are applied as 'doors' 'drawers' in the near future.   

NOTE:  This is just a test door!   I have to fix a small detail in Sketchup on the bead.   (follow me tool doesn't always cooperate, if you use sketchup you'll know what i mean). 

Enjoy.  (or don't, LOL).   

Beaded_Shaker.skp

Beaded Shaker.calibz

Hi Friends.

First, Thank you Mark!  Mucho appreciated.   Agreed on the sides and backs!  Especially, that your beaded inset trick would be a simple click to an existing cabinet.  How cool would that be?

Also, two other great Chief folks were kind enough to share some info with me.   

Here's a video from our friend at Design Build Solutions, LLC    'The white font'  is to honor his cool white glasses, lol. 

and Rabbit Design, who has been instrumental in learning how to manipulate the software to be more efficient to my needs via his tool sets.  (not to mention, just a nice guy in general!). 

Hello,

Is there a way to save interior accessories/shelf configurations in a cabinet style Palettes? 

If it's not in there,  It seems that this would be a great future addition to the tool set!  
Many times, you will want to simply add your favorite roll out set up to a base cabinet.   It would be lovely to have that option as part of the style palette tools.

I'm hoping I just overlooked it though.  Fingers crossed

Thanks.

1 hour ago, DBCooper said:

 

Here are a couple of other tricks that might help:

 

1.  If you turn on the layer for cabinet module lines, then you will get the lines between cabinet boxes.  You will also get a bunch of other lines though, like the ones that will show you how the face frame is built.  Maybe you want all the lines and maybe you don't.

 

2.  If you only want the lines between boxes, then you can make every other cabinet a different material and you will get the lines.  The material doesn't actually need to look any different.  Just make a copy of the material you are using with a different name (like material_2) and paint it on every other cabinet.

 

The picture below shows both methods (I just noticed that I forgot to paint the toekick on the middle cabinet with the same material as the cabinet).

 

 

This is VERY helpful.  I remotely remember this being mentioned some time back.  However, at that time, I would have no idea what anyone was talking about!   

I won't question the HOW, I'll just appreciate the results!   AND YES< I very much would like to see the cabinet face frame rails and stiles shown.   So, this is great. 

Off to create some new tool bar buttons   I think the biggest issue I face with missing lines would be appliance panels next to face frame cabinets.  I hate when the Dishwasher Panel is just blended with the adjacent cabinets.   

So, the take away seems to be, same material equal blending of separate cabinets.  Alternating material, will equal visible separations between cabinets/parts. 

A click of a button to turn on cabinet module lines will turn face frame lines off or on. 

Thank you so much!

2 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

This really depends on what you mean by "the right way". 

• If for example the cabinet will be ordered as 2 separate units, then I'd say 2 separate cabinets is the right way. 
• If you're drawing plans for the cabinet shop and you think simply adding a note that says "Build island as single unit" will do the trick, then I see nothing wrong with simply building with 2 cabinets. 
• If its just for a rough cabinet layout, I would use separate cabinets all day long.
• If however you're building a frameless unit and need to show and account for only a single 3/4" divider between those openings, then a single cabinet is probably the right way.

It just completely depends on what exactly you need to communicate and to who. 

All valid.   However, when I'm thinking of proper elevations and shop drawings,  I want to render and have line drawings that reflect my intent of construction.  
I find it rather frustrating that Chief seems to ignore certain cabinet lines in elevations and leaves them when they should in fact NOT be there.  (moldings are fine example on elevations, they end up a mess sometimes).   Drives me nuts when I have to cheat and make one cabinet 1/16" shallower just so the elevation lines will show properly between two cabinets on the same plane(I do a lot of flush inset cabinets.   Then of course that messes up the counter top lines on the elevation.

Even after using this software for a couple years off and on, I'm always learning new tricks and finding new road blocks.   I couldn't live without it now.   The more I use it, the more I want to learn the smartest and most efficient methodologies!  Rabbit has been a great inspiration when it comes to designing special styles, custom toolbar buttons and such to save time.   Still have a lot to learn though!   Some of you are decade(s) into Chief.  Very much appreciate hearing from the masters!  

So others may understand better, you need to split vertical HERE: TOP OF THE LIST/PARENT VERTICAL

Then I was able to make the proper adjustments. 

Thanks to you both!   Hang banging section over!     You think I would have figured that out.   Appreciate you folks!

This is what I'm after. I need an elevation detail show this as one cabinet.   (which, honestly, I can just do it like I did. Cheat, put two cabinets together) The end result is the same.
I want to know how to do it the right way though>
Thanks guys.  I'm trying out the suggestions now. 

Hello,

Having a senior moment I guess.   

I need to change the right side bottom door heights.   I can't seem to adjust just that section.   
Is it just me, or an X15 issue?   I guess I'll go back to X14 and see if it works.

Regardless, Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? 

I can only change the height for the entire horizontal section despite this pair of doors being a separate 'entity'

Thanks.

I've done so many projects with Chief.  I'm so frustrated with myself for know I'm missing something obvious.  UHG!  

So, I had to dig a bit to find an answer to a very basic question.   I'm not taking any credit for the answer, but I am thinking other newer or even old users may not know the answer.

IF you see the CAD Detail from Drawing option greyed out in the menu, it's only on count that your current view IS NOT set to VECTOR.

Set the elevation/cross section/back section view to the VECTOR style.    

THEN you will regain your ability to create a CAD DETAIL!   

Don't worry, once the cad detail has been created, you can go back and switch your style back to whatever you want in the original camera view. 

Me thinking aloud: Why not just make that 'switch' of styles behind the scene, or make a note write on the menu bar that indicates why it's greyed out?  
Frustrating when the problem is an enigma with no reasoning.   X15 I was hoping this was fixed or addressed.  

 

Hi Chief Friends.   I've been an on and off chief user over the years, but now I'm all in!   

Being so appreciative of those who take time to share their knowledge and insight into Chief, I want to give back as I move along in my exploration.. 

D5 or other third party render engines don't seem to read the UV mapping of Chief doors.  The doors export as one color/material layer, and you can't assign the rails separate from the stiles. 

I'm working on a new door symbol set that has separate colors already assigned to make prepping a job for third party render a little easier. 

For a start, here is a custom shaker door set that has separate material colors assigned for the stile and rails, as well as center panel.  In addition, there are two sets of each so you can mix things up. 

Your render quality will greatly improve when your cabinet doors have accurate grain direction.   The original symbol block is included as well, if you wish to tinker. 

I've actually found this useful in CA renders as well.  If you really want to get an even more realistic door set, edit the original symbol block to use separate colors for the top vs bottom rail, and separate color for left vs. right rail!  

Let me know if there is an interest in symbols like this.  I'll keep sharing.   

D5 Shaker.calibz

Need to get Hafele onboard!  Moving over from 2020 into Chief, it's certainly a missed catalog used by so many cabinet manufacturers.  

17 minutes ago, Joe_Carrick said:

No, there isn't any option currently to modify that behavior.  It would be a good idea to submit it as a suggestion.  Probably something in Preferences.

Good idea.   I'll put it on the list  

It's pretty picky of a thing to request.   Guess we'll see if others chime in.   Once you get your menu structure organized, it's not 'as bad'.  

Hello,

As it relates to Library Browser;  I'm curious to know if there are controls to shut off the auto-extend of a folder when you drop and drag an item into it.

Then it opens up sub folders.   This is fine normally.  However, if you haven't gotten around to organizing a main folder, you may get a very long list of items.

I have an easy work-around.   I'll move my unorganized items into a folder name starting with a '0' zero, so it will stay at the top of the list.  

That just leads to this though once you now drop that item into the next sub folder;  and the question remains.   How to stop auto expand of a folder/sub folder. 

Any insight is helpful.  

Thanks,

Steve Matlaga

I'm so impressed with Rabbit Design's tool sets!   They really are essential!  I've already purchased the Kitchen Tools, Shelf Tools, Window Tools, and 3D Render Export tools.  I've not even touch the surface of what this tool set can do, and I'm already impressed!   I strongly suggest you pick up all the tools you can!  They are well worth it.   Pick up one, two, or all!  Show Rene some love!  He's put his heart and soul into this stuff.   Not to mention, he shares so much with the community and on youtube!  Chief has Rene to thank for my recent upgrade to X14.  I'm now a life time Chief user!  I've made the commitment.

Keep 'M Coming Rene!   We need a Rabbit Cabinet Door Wizard tool set next!  A Rabbit set of custom doors symbols would be amazing.  (hint).  

PS:  Used your wine cooler tool just today!  Cool.   ONe click wine cooler.  Loved it!