PhoenixPhlash

Lew may not be back home from the hospital yet. Went in on the 2nd, expected a 5 day stay. Hope all went well. Even at that, if they put him on some good meds, he may be out of it for awhile.

$125 per hour, plus engineering and t-24. Full docs ready for permit. No extra charge for permit cycle corrections. Base price [minimum] $4,200.00 for additions, $2,800.00 for interior renovation/remodel. Additional services to add would be contract consulting, project supervision/consulting (construction phase services), permit acquisition, contractor/sub-contractor review, or actual contract for construction by us.

Ditto Bryce

As Lew indicated, we've been down this road before. I've never known of a building department that's required a 3D view of the plumbing as it relates to the fixtures in 3D. All they require, and it's usually only the Commercial applications, is an isometric that indicates sizing. It doesn't have to be to scale, it doesn't have to slope, it doesn't have to be in color...... Just some lines with size indicator loops - simple CAD. I've been doing these things for almost 50 years, and I've never had a plan checker tell me that I didn't show the correct slope, or how much oakum and lead needed to be in the bell and spigot cast iron joints - yes, I was 14 years old, crawling under houses with a ladle full of molten lead to pour into a cast joint and then have to cork it, and come back for more lead. In fact, I still have all of my old tools (pot, ladle, corking irons, & ropes, and even a few boxes of oakum).

Anyway, my feeling is that if you do a fancy 3D plumbing system drawing, and the plumber does it that way, guess who is responsible if it isn't right (venting, sizing, wet vents, slope, etc.). Just lines with sizes, based on the code, done.

That's why I said no guarantees for use in X-6. Too bad, it worked really well in it's day, eight years ago - seems like it would be easier now, are we going backwards?

This was tough to do back in the day. That's when you could do 3d in the earlier versions of Adobe Acrobat.

Maw Addition Framing.pdf

OK, found it. Tommy Blair gave this to us back in 2006. No guarantees it works with X6, but won't hurt to give it a go.

Good Luck.

SHOWING FRAMING ADDITION.doc

Like this? Problem is, I did this back in 2006, and I forgot how I did it. I'll look for the instructions that I used when I did.