Hello All, I know many of you have been using Rene's tools and free symbols. For those of you that haven't, you should take a look at them. The Kitchen tools were my 1st purchase and my favorite! They save me so much time and impress the heck out of my clients when we can interactively bang out a kitchen design quickly. The Shower and quick bath were next in line. Just these two items helped to speed up my design time. I ended up being so impressed that I bought the "Rabbitt Design System."