zowie123 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Hey all, I know there's got to be a better way. I looked up a Scott Hall Vid on wall alignment and it looks like when he grabs a wall, a line shoots out from the main layer to extend across the model so you can see when you're aligning main layer across the room. That doesn't happen when I grab a wall, does anyone know where the setting is for that? I use the cross hairs cursor, but cursor cross hairs don't don't align with anything in particular when you grab a wall. Thanks very much, Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRAWZILLA Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Are your angle snaps on. I keep them on all the time and just hit the control key when I need something off the normal angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zowie123 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 yes, they are, but I don't they don't give me a line when I move a wall from the middle, but than you Perry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zowie123 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Do you guys get a line shooting out from the main layer or whatever layer you've choose as your wall align layer? Maybe it's my imagination. If not how does one align a wall from across rooms? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 When moving the wall try dragging it over to the wall you are trying to align it with and let it "snap" to that wall without releasing your Mouse button. Now try to put it where you want it and see if the line shows up that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zowie123 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thanks Michael, I'm not trying to drag a wall next to another wall, but align a wall 3 rooms away with no common walls to dimension from. That's where a line shooting across the plan would help. Does that exist for anyone or does everyone draw a cad line and align to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I understood what you were trying to do. I don't have chief available to me at the moment, but I'm pretty sure what I said will work. If not, I would probably just use a CAD line or the align tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zowie123 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Now that i zoom in I see that my mouse cross hairs to align...man I swear they weren't before....call me crazy. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Could be you were seeing a snap extension. Do you have all your snaps enabled? Specifically the 3 extension snaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennw Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think Jim gave you the answer. You should be able to use either Perpendicular Extension Snaps or Orthogonal Extension Snaps. Or you can draw the wall right across as 1 wall and then break it at the appropriate places - this way is usually more accurate as you are not trying to align things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 I think Jim gave you the answer. You should be able to use either Perpendicular Extension Snaps or Orthogonal Extension Snaps. .... When trying to snap to something so far away you would need to "inference" that point or as I mentioned snap to it first AND THEN go back to the area you're working in to actually place the object (wall in this case). In order to have those extension lines show up when aligning a wall to a parallel wall you may have to use your center mouse wheel or the right button (IOW use a "move" handle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldCKD Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 One thing I've done that works in a lot of instances is to use the 'center' tool (this one -><-) but the walls you want to have aligned have to be the same thickness, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgabriel Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sometimes it's just as easy to draw a CAD line from one side to the other, snap the wall to the line, then erase the line. I have a hotkey assigned to the line tool to help make this process faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzira Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Sometimes I will just connect the walls and then break them and move them apart. I also draw a lot of cad lines for temp alignments and centering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 I too use CAD lines A LOT for these types of things. And for those who don't know, W is the out of the box hotkey for the line tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 When trying to snap to something so far away you would need to "inference" that point or as I mentioned snap to it first AND THEN go back to the area you're working in to actually place the object (wall in this case). I don't think that is true w/ walls. I don't have to reference any other wall to get an extension line from any other wall. Not on my PC, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I don't think that is true w/ walls. I don't have to reference any other wall to get an extension line from any other wall. Not on my PC, anyway. Hmm...are you sure? Even 3 rooms over? I definitely have to. Extension lines will only show up for me automatically if no other walls are between the wall I'm editing and the wall I'm snapping to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Yeah, I'm sure. The extension won't reach thru a wall to get to another wall beyond, but the extension will reach past walls & rooms that are not in the way to get to another wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 ... The extension won't reach thru a wall to get to another wall beyond, but the extension will reach past walls & rooms that are not in the way to get to another wall. Gotcha. Yes, this is what I was trying to help solve. If you "inference" or "reference" the other wall by "snapping" to it before placing the object you can get the extension line to go THROUGH walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebdesign Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I was wrong. You can get an extension snap from a wall that is behind another room/wall. No inference or reference required. Wonder why I didn't get one earlier? I now know much more than necessary about extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskan_Son Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 That's an entirely different situation than I was envisioning. Closing an open exterior wall "envelope" I imagine would have different results. Try drawing an abnormal shaped footprint with no common walls like the OP was talking about...divide it with several rooms and then try getting extensions to show several rooms over through the dividing walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Carrick Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 My problem is with Drywall Installers who don't take the time to verify that framing is straight, plumb and true. They then install the drywall without shimming, install corner beads out of plumb and mud over it without making sure that the line between corner beads on short walls is floated straight, not to mention the fact that they tend to build up over 1/8" of tape and mud at drywall joints in some cases. I just inspected a job where a 42" wide x 96" tall wall was out of plumb -1/4" on the left edge and +1/2" on the right edge. So badly warped that it has to be removed and redone. This is about the 10th instance on this house that they had to correct. Talk about walls being mis-aligned ................ :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zowie123 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 Thanks for all the answers! From what I gather, if you want to align an interior wall to an exterior wall, you have to go in and change the default wall settings to align to interiors. That's 6 clicks--should be available on the right click. The reason it's easier sometimes than others depends on which wall alignment default you have set at the moment. If you don't have the correct wall alignment set for the present condition (align main layer outside) you have to go in and change it, if you have the correct wall alignment set for the present condition (align main layer inside) it snaps life magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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