Create "loose" manual framing?

[Autumn1]

Trying to model a 1950's "Nail together roof truss" with trial version X9 Premier. I understand that the ceiling joists & roof rafters are "tied" to their respective planes and so can't be moved (By me anyway).  Is there a way to create a "2x4" out in "space" that I can move anywhere I want and at any angle as if it were a truss "web member". Can I stick frame a truss and then "CAD Block" it into a "CA Truss" -OR-Draw a "Premier Truss" and then "blow it apart to model my "as built" truss? Pretty sure there is a "Wall to CAD" feature in which you could create and move WALL 2x4's but it's dissabeled for the tiral version. 

[GeneDavis]

Do yourself a favor and model it in Sketchup, then import as a symbol.  What you seem to want is a multi-component assembly that is grouped as the truss, and Chief isn't the right tool for doing that.

 

Not sure if a trial version of X9 will let you import a .skp.

 

You can readily model rafters and ceiling joists and ridge beams in Chief X9, but you'll have to tell us more about the components of the "1950s nail-together truss" for us to advise better.

[Alaskan_Son]

44 minutes ago, Autumn1 said:

Trying to model a 1950's "Nail together roof truss" with trial version X9 Premier. I understand that the ceiling joists & roof rafters are "tied" to their respective planes and so can't be moved (By me anyway).  Is there a way to create a "2x4" out in "space" that I can move anywhere I want and at any angle as if it were a truss "web member". Can I stick frame a truss and then "CAD Block" it into a "CA Truss" -OR-Draw a "Premier Truss" and then "blow it apart to model my "as built" truss? Pretty sure there is a "Wall to CAD" feature in which you could create and move WALL 2x4's but it's dissabeled for the tiral version. 

 

I could be misunderstanding but Chief has a built in Truss tool. You can just build the truss and then add, delete, or modify individual members in elevation or in the truss detail.

[Autumn1]

Thanks Gene. Very simple roof but not most common rafter detail. I model roof by clicking "boxed eave" as well as "Flush Eve" and then raising above plate 16" . I also uncheck "birdsmouth" and check "Trusses". 

Then I can place a 2x6 ceiling joist across room and it extends out 34" so that ceiling drywall & soffit overhang plywood attach to same 2x6. Then 2x4 rafters create a simple triangle "truss" with a 2x6 bottom cord that is on top of wall plate and extends out 34" for boxed eve. (Not the more typical 2x4 rafters that slope down below top plate) 

When I look at cross section it looks like Premier creates some kind of "attic wall" surfaces. Not sure why. 

 

Michael - I have tried using the programs trusses and it comes real close with a "king post truss" but I can't figure out how to move or add cross members such as a short "energy heal" of sorts. 

 

 

[Autumn1]

Edit Truss Detail ?  I am able to create a Kingpost Truss with an energy heal that is 97% perfect. If I mess with the truss envelope in cross section it moves the energy heel pc. into weird shapes and areas. I see the "truss detail" cad drawing but can't figure out how to make any changes. All I need is to drag both ends of bottom cord out to meet rafter tails and create boxed eve. Is it possible to take a go to meeting using a Premier Trial download? ! Roofs are never "easy".

[Autumn1]

GOT IT THANKS! Wow - Unlock Truss Detail in Layers! Could have used that info long ago. Thanks Guys.