Wall outline missing in Elevations X9

[Peter_S]

Our wall elevations seem are failing to display the wall outlines in most (not all) wall elevation views.

I've tested this on several computers with same result.

This is NOT plan specific and occurs in all template plans I've tested as well.

I've also tested same plans in several versions.

 

They display correctly in X6, X7 and X8, but are missing in X9.

The lines are shown in layout windows, but not in open elevations.

 

The screenshot shows elevations from the same file, open in X7 and X9

Have others come across this?

 

Do you have a solution?

 

Cheers

Peter

 

[Tim-Grindlay]

I think it might be the layer Cross Section Lines need to be displayed, that worked for us

[Peter_S]

HI Tim. Unfortunately it's not that. Even with "all on" layerset the lines are not displaying
The only workaround I've been able to find is to make the wall linings into the "Main layers" of the wall, which moves walls and has several other undesirable consequences.

[Tim-Grindlay]

Hi Peter,  sorry I didn't look at your attachment,  I'm just browsing on my phone...   it'll be interesting to learn what the solution is...

[Alaskan_Son]

If you want a solution you should really post a plan (even a stripped down version).  It could be a material setting, it could be a layer setting, it could be a layer set setting, etc. 

[Peter_S]

Thanks Michael

As suggested, I've attached an example.

This is from an unchanged Chief ProfileM template. (same results with other templates)

All I've done is to draw four walls and add the wall elevation and saved the elevation.

Screenshot of the generated view is also attached.

 

I can't think of anything in my preference or other settings that might be causing this either.

 

I hope you can make some sense of it.

Cheers

P

Elevation display problem 2017-03-10.plan

[Alaskan_Son]

Hey Peter,

 

I never actually use wall elevation cameras so I hadn't noticed this problem before but you appear to be absolutely correct.  They aren't working the same as they used to and I can easily reproduce your issue.  I would recommend you report this to tech support.  In the meantime, it looks like the problem is that the program needs a defined edge there in order to draw anything.  There are a few workarounds that might hold you over until Chief fixes the issue...

 

1.  If it happens at an outside corner, use the Edit Wall Layer Intersections tool to drag the drywall layer on the wall being viewed back so that its not being flush with the inside face of the adjacent wall and not being beveled or tucked behind.  This drywall edge will then produce a line.

 

2.  If it's not at an outside corner you can place a break and do the same as above...

 

3.  You can assign a Wall Covering to the wall that is the same material as your interior wall finish and covering the entire wall.

 

4.  Same as above but you can assign that Wall Covering to the entire room.

 

5.  Click on the Wall Material Region Tool, click once on the wall, set that material region to Cut Finish Layers Of Parent Object, and assign the same material as your wall finish except make it like 1/64" thicker.

 

6.  Or of course you can just draw them in manually. 

 

The problem really needs to be reported and addressed but in the meantime hopefully one of the above will work for you.  Any one of them should cause those lines to draw...

 

Hope that helps.

[Peter_S]

Hi Michael

Thanks for looking into it to confirm the issue and for pointing out solutions.

We do mainly kitchens and bathrooms and therefore use wall elevations a lot.

 

Workaround method 1-2 worked a treat!

Yes, the other options can also be used, although all of them have limitations.

 

I'll report it and hope to have it fixed soon.

 

Thanks again for your help.

P

[rlackore]

4 hours ago, Alaskan_Son said:

 

2.  If it's not at an outside corner you can place a break and do the same as above...

 

 

Just placing the break seems to do the trick - no need to mess around with the wall intersection tool:

[DRAWZILLA]

Really shouldn't have to place a break in all you walls, seems like a waste of time. I have been just drawing a box around the outside edge and making it a thicker line ( like 55). I like that look better .

[Alaskan_Son]

On 3/10/2017 at 1:00 AM, Peter_S said:

Hi Michael

Thanks for looking into it to confirm the issue and for pointing out solutions.

We do mainly kitchens and bathrooms and therefore use wall elevations a lot.

 

Workaround method 1-2 worked a treat!

Yes, the other options can also be used, although all of them have limitations.

 

I'll report it and hope to have it fixed soon.

 

Thanks again for your help.

P

 

You're welcome.  I do a lot of kitchens and baths myself but I still don't use the wall elevation tool.  Way too limiting IMO.  I much prefer to just use a normal elevation/cross section along with a quick CAD mask. 

[DRAWZILLA]

I really like using the wall elevation views , they work for me.

[Adam_Gibson]

I use the wall elevation view quite a bit. It's perfect for kitchens and baths, and in general when I don't want to show anything beyond walls. Two things I REALLY wish we could do with it:

1. Resize its clip plane to expand its width to include adjacent walls. 
2. Break it to step its cutting planes. 

Both of these are possible with regular elevations. 

[AvoyeDesign]

On 3/9/2017 at 9:52 PM, Peter_S said:

Our wall elevations seem are failing to display the wall outlines in most (not all) wall elevation views.

I've tested this on several computers with same result.

This is NOT plan specific and occurs in all template plans I've tested as well.

I've also tested same plans in several versions.

 

They display correctly in X6, X7 and X8, but are missing in X9.

The lines are shown in layout windows, but not in open elevations.

 

The screenshot shows elevations from the same file, open in X7 and X9

Have others come across this?

 

Do you have a solution?

 

Cheers

Peter

 

Hi Peter,

I don't use the wall elevation tool very often, but opening your plan and the camera, that is exactly what I expected to see.  I don't think chief is acting out of character, but perhaps you can create a post in the suggestion forum and describe what you would like to see.

[DRAWZILLA]

I just draw a box around it in the live view, b/c I like a thicker line anyway, use it all the time.

[Peter_S]

6 hours ago, KervinHomeDesign said:

but opening your plan and the camera, that is exactly what I expected to see.  I don't think chief is acting out of character,

The wall elevation (vector view) should show the wall lines, but often fails to do this.

This has been confirmed by Support as an error/bug.

6 hours ago, DRAWZILLA said:

 

I just draw a box around it in the live view, b/c I like a thicker line anyway, use it all the time.

 

Which is what we're not doing as well to overcome this. I also like the thicker line framing the view.