amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I recently starting drawings for metal building and I'm trying to figure out the best methods for doing wall framing. Typically C-Channel is used for the wall framing ran horizontally between vertical posts. The problem I am having is that when I use a general framing member and turn it into a C-Channel it's only option is to be vertically oriented. I need them to be horizontally oriented. Is there any other way to get it to work or do I just have to manually create C-Channel using polyline solids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Here's an example of what issue I'm having Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Have you tried to use the material STEEL STUD @ 16" OC instead of FIR STUD @ 16" O? This should give you c channel studs and top plate and bottom plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Oh...... I thought the answer was too easy...... try this.... draw a GENERAL FRAMING MEMBER off to the side, change it to a c channel........ FRAMING SPEC<GENERAL<TYPE<C-CHANNEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Do you mean the material for the wall framing in the wall set up? If so then yes, that's what I set up. However we don't build walls like that. These are steel buildlings that have horizontal C-Channel framing @ 48" o.c. vertically on the wall between steel posts. I can make them using molding poly lines or polyline solids, but I was hoping to get them as framing materials so I can use them in the material list and possibly get a count of all we need with each project without having to do a manual take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 That's what I did in my picture above, but the problem is it won't turn horizontally and if you size it to be 8X2 instead of 2X8 it looks like the bottom profile which is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Do you mean the material for the wall framing in the wall set up? If so then yes, that's what I set up. However we don't build walls like that. These are steel buildlings that have horizontal C-Channel framing @ 48" o.c. vertically on the wall between steel posts. I can make them using molding poly lines or polyline solids, but I was hoping to get them as framing materials so I can use them in the material list and possibly get a count of all we need with each project without having to do a manual take off. I assume you posted this before I posted #4, #4 will require you to manually locate each c channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Sorry, sorry sorry, I am slow on the uptake....... I got the problem now..... I suppose you can turn that c channel into a symbol and then rotate it....... probably the same result as using the framing member as is......... I think that is the solution..... turn that general framing member into a symbol, rotate it, and use it over and over again. What you really want is a METAL SILL PLATE, I do not think that is an option, therefore the symbol solution may be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I just build a metal framed wall, I put the sill plate on its own layer, did a framing overview, turned off all layers except the one the sill plate is on, and made a symbol out of that...... you probably have already done that....... I am just rambling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlackore Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 What you really want is a METAL SILL PLATE, I do not think that is an option, therefore the symbol solution may be best. The U-channel plates will generate automatically according to your Framing defaults. I wonder, though, if the real-world wall framing "posts" are actually C-channels? I don't think there is any way CA gives us an option for custom framing shapes, like a U-channel, or a W-shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshall Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I did one more option, put the steel studs @ 1000 feet o.c., put in blocking, changed blocking to c channel, copied the blocking as needed up and down wall, not a good option, best option is probably the symbol option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 In this scenario my "posts" are I-Beams and they let me use those. Here's a picture of what I did. I just created a profile for my C-Channel and extruded it as a polyline solid and placed them as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amddrafting Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 I like your solution Scott, it probably would work better for tracking in the materials list though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kbird1 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 AMD ......don't you have the bonus Beam Catalog it has a C-Channel in it along with 2-3 other steel beams/flanges etc? might not be what you wanted of course but it is horizontal by default by the looks of it. M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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